Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Malcolm McLean Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: xxd -i vs DIY Was: C23 thoughts and opinions Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 22:46:56 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <00297443-2fee-48d4-81a0-9ff6ae6481e4@gmail.com> <87msoh5uh6.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87y18047jk.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87msoe1xxo.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87ikz11osy.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <20240528144118.00002012@yahoo.com> <20240528185624.00002494@yahoo.com> <20240528232315.00006a58@yahoo.com> <20240529130818.000070bf@yahoo.com> <20240529225905.000041ec@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 23:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="caedc23860868fba36e9b00f63855f95"; logging-data="1395144"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Duy592n7eKPPWPV8RKwuaAfgH/Nx7kDs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:pLd3ZcIj/mghAu6srHB1W4yxx64= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <20240529225905.000041ec@yahoo.com> Bytes: 3693 On 29/05/2024 20:59, Michael S wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2024 14:07:00 -0400 > James Kuyper wrote: > >> On 29/05/2024 18:27, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> On 29/05/2024 13:10, David Brown wrote: >>>> >>>> It wasn't the cheapest available, and 64 GB memory (and 4 TB SSD) >>>> don't come free.  (And I buy these bare-bones.  Machines with >>>> Windows "pre-installed" are often cheaper because they are >>>> sponsored by the junk-ware and ad-ware forced on unsuspecting >>>> users.) >>> Yes, I got a job at Cambridge which didn't work out (Cantab dons, >>> much less tolerant people then their counterparts at another >>> university, but that's another story). And I was given a brand new >>> Windows machine, and told that we had to use Linux. So I installed >>> a Linux version which ran on top of Windows. No good, I was told. >>> Might cause problems with that "interesting" set up. ... >> >> They're quite right in that regard, as I can testify from personal >> experience. >> >>> ... So I had to scrub a brand new version of Windows. >>> It felt like the most extravagant waste. >> >> Keep in mind that, as David pointed out, the "waste" was probably >> negative. You got a better price on the machine than you would have >> otherwise, and erasing that malware gave you more space to put useful >> stuff on your machine. > > May be, for laptps that is true. But for mini-PCs it is very different. > Windows is surprisingly expensive in this case. OEM license is sold for > ~75% of retail license price. > Exactly. Windows costs a fortune. And Microsoft spend billions developing it. Baby X can't compete. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm