Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!212.27.60.64.MISMATCH!cleanfeed3-b.proxad.net!nnrp1-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Syst=C3=A8me?= D References: <17d065abdba646e4$55$3291601$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <6649d383$0$7529$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <17d0e4dc53ceaf01$104363$543415$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Organization: Mulots' Killer User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 19 May 2024 16:18:01 GMT Lines: 66 Message-ID: <664a2639$0$10525$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 May 2024 18:18:01 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.201.248.7 X-Trace: 1716135481 news-2.free.fr 10525 78.201.248.7:44556 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 3273 Le 19-05-2024, Farley Flud a écrit : > On 19 May 2024 10:25:07 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > >> >> But a useful workstation can be improved greatly with service >> management. >> > > How so? > > The purpose of a workstation is to run software. Not only and some softwares needs services. For the not only parts, I want to be able to [un]plug easily a USB key/drive, a mouse, a printer, the WiFi, well anything I didn't plugged before starting my computer. And for the softwares, when they run in docker, the service need to be started. A lot of things like the logs are very well managed thanks to a service. > If my software requires a "service," I can manage it myself. I'm not that sure about that. And if you manage to start it automatically at the boot time, you won't be able to see when, a service crashes and need a restart. For example I remember when a few weeks/months ago you had issues with your ntpd service. You are the only one I know who were able to break it. That tells a lot. >> And systemd is very good at it. > > Anything that requires 3 million lines of code to do > its job cannot be described as "good." So you are publicly telling everyone here the Linux kernel cannot be described as good. I won't say that I'm surprised because it's not the first time you don't understand your claims. >> >> write something that does everything that >> systemd is good at without his issues. >> > > I already have written an init/service management system. Yes, I know, it manages to display a useless black screen. You can be proud of it. > It is customized for my needs only. Yes, your needs are only to be able to fail compiling your kernel. > GNU/Linux makes this possible for me and for everyone else, Yes, everyone else can have more expectation from his or her computer than you. I have nothing against your limited needs/capabilities. The issue with you is you consider others needs as invalids. > but systemd threatens to destroy the possibility for everyone. Nope. You just don't know how systemd works. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io