Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us14.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=[_T^;Nc@Sc3j3;ajC]ejH>HWonT5<]0T=Q;nb^V>PUf6=AnO\FUBY[0kk?Sl;]0eV6V3N6I\NkCR<3e=llHa]nQ8AjA6U`DU>^2;ShNC_NEBi33i5aM4]lNV; X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net From: Andrzej Matuch Subject: Re: cpu-x Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <66399f10$0$6551$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <663fba6f$1$6436$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66400e83$0$7173$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66420423$0$6444$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <6642ac1f$0$3711206$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <6644ffb2$0$3711201$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66474473$0$2422116$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66477466$0$7077$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66478094$0$2363147$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> User-Agent: Pan/0.146 (Hic habitat felicitas; d7a48b4 gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan.git) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 17 May 2024 16:46:00 GMT Lines: 119 Message-ID: <664789c8$1$3369$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1715964360 reader.netnews.com 3369 127.0.0.1:42897 Bytes: 7702 On Fri, 17 May 2024 12:06:49 -0400, DFS wrote: > On 5/17/2024 11:14 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:41:10 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>> On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 03:04:45 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-05-15, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 14:04:34 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2024-05-14, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 22:54:36 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2024 12:14:27 GMT, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ... explain how it is the _software_ that is making them money, >>>>>>>>>> and not the _support_ for that software. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is the support that is making the money. That is the point, >>>>>>>>> after all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ever heard of “give away the razor, sell the razorblades”? >>>>>>>>> That’s how Free Software works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, it would be beneficial to open-source developers to make sure >>>>>>>> that their software breaks easily and crashes, so as to sell the >>>>>>>> support. Gotcha. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that would be brilliant, because customers would flock by >>>>>>> the droves to useless, crap software... But you may have >>>>>>> something, people keep using crap Microsoft Windows even though >>>>>>> their "customers" are really Microsoft's unpaid beta testers. >>>>>> >>>>>> They use Windows because it's what they got on the computer they >>>>>> purchased which cost less than a similar Mac. Considering how >>>>>> Windows can run on just about any hardware and support every >>>>>> third-party peripheral they plug into it, they are not likely to >>>>>> seek out an alternative, even if it crashes a few times. It also >>>>>> has the largest library of software, and tons of experts can be >>>>>> found on the web to help them with any technical problem they have, >>>>>> free of charge. Those are real benefits, no matter how much one >>>>>> hates Windows. >>>>> >>>>> I find a lot better support for Linux on the Internet than I do for >>>>> Windows. There are a LOT of people who'll tell you how to fix >>>>> Windows... >>>>> only problem is, none of it EVER works. When my wife's old computer >>>>> BSOD'd (twice during upgrades) I found (and tried) about 20 >>>>> "solutions," >>>>> none of which worked. >>>>> The second time I went to what actually worked sooner — using a >>>>> Linux Live[B USB to download her data and rebuild the computer from >>>>> scratch. I could be a great Windows support expert... I've already >>>>> memorized the three Rs, >>>>> "Reboot. Reboot. Rebuild." >>>>> >>>>> (Again this is from a years back and I will admit that wife has had >>>>> a lot less trouble since then. Although I still have to reset her >>>>> network something or other when it slows to crawl on the Internet >>>>> (what is that crap?). And I still think Windows is the most >>>>> convoluted crap OS ever made. >>>> >>>> There are three issues I can imagine for the slow Internet: 1) an IP >>>> mismatch caused by a crappy TP-Link router (I've had this issue), 2) >>>> terrible Wi-Fi hardware such as the chips made by MediaTek, 3) too >>>> much distance and interference between her computer and the router. >>>> If you have a cheap TP-Link router, get rid of that thing. Their more >>>> expensive models are fine, but the one selling for around $30 causes >>>> a lot of chaos. >>> >>> I have a TP-Link router and it works well because the computers, >>> except for one room, are connected via LAN cables. I think TP-Link >>> routers can't handle a lot of WiFi traffic — they overheat. But the >>> Gigabyte Ethernet ports seem to be rock solid. There's computers in >>> nine locations in this house. Fortunately, when they ran the phone >>> cables they used CAT 5, so I just re-terminated the cables to CAT 5 >>> jacks, added five, cheap ($7 Gigabyte switches) and ran some CAT 5 >>> cable at the base of the wall for some of the locations not near a >>> jack — and everyone has fast, reliable Internet. Now that you mention >>> it, I don't think my wife's computer has had to have the network reset >>> since I ran the Ethernet cable to her computer. But I never had >>> problems with the Linux computers when using the same WiFi >>> connections. >> >> With the aforementioned TP-Link router a technician from my ISP gave >> me, I had no problems in Linux either. However, the moment I got back >> into Windows, it wouldn't give me any kind of Internet after connecting >> to the router. I only eventually figured out that the router in >> question was using an already used IP address despite being configured >> not to. Why that would only be a problem for Windows is beyond me. >> >>>>>> Linux has much of the above too, but its library of software isn't >>>>>> as impressive and the software's general quality isn't there >>>>>> either. It works on anything, that's true, but not anyone is >>>>>> comfortable with the process of installing it, no matter how easy >>>>>> it is. >>>>> >>>>> I understand. I've known people who buy a new Windows computer every >>>>> time the old one slows down because that's all they want to know. >>>>> "Doesn't work right any more, but a new one." >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, we're dealing with high inflation and a likely recession >>>> which should prompt most people to save as much money as they can by >>>> keeping their hardware for as long as possible. Linux is going to be >>>> everyone's best friend soon. >>> >>> You're probably right. It's already happening in South America. >> >> And I don't blame them for rejecting Windows or anything else American, >> considering what the CIA did to topple their democratically elected >> governments in the past to make them puppet states of the USA. How many >> Latin leaders need to die in a plane crash before the world realizes >> that the American government, not the people, is indeed The Great >> Satan? > > kooks Which part are you denying?