Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The entire history of GuhNoo/FOSS/Linux hobbyware in 3 words Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 02:11:07 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <66608b02$0$3747324$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 04:11:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="eb4960937233bb2725eac8a08e4ae058"; logging-data="1395578"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18RPrj3vd584DxDec25bVU3" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KtYwmh9dhVVrTiKwPz2XA5l9M9s= Bytes: 2502 On 2024-06-05, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2024-06-05 11:57 a.m., DFS wrote: >> >> "inspired by " > > It should be noted that Linux's openness is a major reason for why Sun > Microsystems went bankrupt. Sun's stuff was still better, but people > could create a bunch of servers for cheap using Linux that it didn't > even matter. > > I guess that's Linux's greatest achievement: killing Sun and putting > lots of people out of work. I think Sun was like a lot of big, successful corporations. They got fat and complacent and failed to innovate. Sun was already on its way down long before Linux became the dominant web-server OS. Microsoft specifically set out to destroy Sun. When I helped to remove a PBX switch and phones at a closed Mirosoft corporate building in Dallas (in the early 2000s) I saw some of their material about destroying Sun in the assorted trash they just left lying around. I think they called it "Sundown" — or something like that. They considered Sun a major competitor but, by then, they had pretty much done their job. As for Sun OS being "better" than Linux. Maybe at the time, but Linux was already innovating while Sun was resting on their laurels. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine