Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 07:07:12 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Perfect clocks Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <05f42940-be0f-4dc7-afd6-8370f88b557bn@googlegroups.com> <1qsmp8o.1jwlg3v1xk01r5N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1qso39s.m68wpff47vhtN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <6a1c3b297bdda349a4b060c84dd8807a@www.novabbs.com> <17ca6e610e072624$155218$255119$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <401105f9fddb89f13f72c90d06d51dab@www.novabbs.com> <17cac6a1570a540d$155221$255119$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <671d6b9802b5dfaf9672774e1d4ae9ed@www.novabbs.com> <17cad465c14cd941$213827$253407$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <8e14b528a9e8821ba273553468d337a5@www.novabbs.com> <17caeeb49636d324$155222$255119$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <17cb6c5970c8b2e3$172133$261710$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <17cc5a885168041b$248923$253407$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 77 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 05:07:12 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3706 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17cccdfa1194372d$238029$261710$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 4113 W dniu 06.05.2024 o 01:59, gharnagel pisze: > Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> >> W dniu 04.05.2024 o 17:46, Tom Roberts pisze: >> > >> > On 5/1/24 12:06 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >> > > >> > > sane people, as anyone can check at GPS, keep assuming the second >> to > > be  9 192 631 770 on Earth, >> > > This is not an "assumption", this is the definition of the second -- >> > that's what these words mean. >> >> 1) Poincare has said that axiooms are "definitions >> in disguise", or something like that. I would say >> it differently - anyway, definitions are assumed. > > SOme are, but not all. Because a DK idiot is believing and asserting? See, Harrie - definitions are not physical entities, your "authority" in the field is completely self-appointed. And definitions are really a special form of axioms. Ready to discuss it, yes, but not with a DK idiot. >> 2)Could find a quoting where you admit that in the >> context of GPS the word means something else. > > The fact is that if one had an accurate 1 second The fact is that outside of your mad church nobody cares what your mad church is assuming accurate or not. The fact is also that common sense was warning your idiot guru. But you can keep fooling yourself insisting that GPS has inaccurate clocks, why not; at least you've (temporarily?) stopped to deny they're real. per second clock > aboard the GPS, it would tick at exactly 1 second per second, but > it would not appear to from the ground.  In fact, the first bird > up there had exactly that and it didn't tick at 1 second per second > at the ground.  That's why they switched to the alternate timing. > >> See: even such pathetic pieces of fanatic shit >> like you or Harrie can't lie 100% of time. > > See?  Wozzie lies ALL the time. > >>> On a GPS satellite, the usual definition of the second applies. > >> No. > > Yes! No. I could find a quoting in which even that piece of shit Roberts is admitting it. > >> Common sense was warning your idiot guru, wasn't it? > > The idiots were the engineers that disbelieved relativity. Your ravings and spitting won't change anything, nobody sane is assuming that GPS clocks are inaccurate (because SO!!!) and nobody sane ever will be.