Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Maya Angelou died (28-5-2014) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 15:40:36 +0100 Lines: 61 Message-ID: <87mso4g1zv.fsf@parhasard.net> References: <87ttidg07m.fsf@parhasard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net pl5ITok/GxUzR9XNfwANVQiSKx9P7/kjXqr9ZoGLA26+53TG2d Cancel-Lock: sha1:WiNEVIUTLlHDWJ7AYY7L2M0EyVQ= sha1:mrqzIanRE/CcU4O+XjDQ6cksulw= sha256:BeVCDWYEYqDDEcrL42T1S4QoXIMdqGj3EuMaqXUMm+M= User-Agent: Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) XEmacs/21.5-b35 (Linux-aarch64) Bytes: 3589 Ar an chéad lá de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden: > On 2024-05-31 21:06:53 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said: > > > Ar an t-aonú lá is triochad de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > > > > On 2024-05-31 07:50:03 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said: > > > > > > > On 2024-05-30 18:47:03 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said: > > > > > > > >> On 2024-05-30, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>> No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the point of callig > > > >>>> someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish. The name is much more > > > >>>> common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in Somerset than it > > > >>>> is in Devon. > > > >>> > > > >>> I used to know María Teresa Miras Portugal (until she died): she was > > > >>> Spanish, not Portuguese. > > > >> > > > >> Actress Cécile de France is Belgian. > > > > > > > > Indeed. I didn't think of her, but I knew she was Belgian. > > > > > > An even more prominent example is François Hollande: he is not Dutch, but is > > > French. > > > > Ian Fleming was also British, not from Flanders. > > > > Ian Paisley was (and Ian Óg Paisley is) not from Paisley. > > > > George C. Scott was from West Virginia, not Scotland. > > > > Neither the actor James Franco nor the deceased caudillo of Spain have any > > immediate family background in Franconia, nor even France. > > > > Percy French, Irish songwriter, was not French by nationality. > > > > Counterexample; Charles de Gaulle was French, but his name was Dutch. > > > > Complication; Chester Nimitz was of recent German descent, but had US > > nationality; his family name is of Slavic origin but designates a German. > > > > I’m sure I could (and we could) keep going with these! > > As a possible counterexample, what about Deutsch and Deutscher, which seem to > be reasonably common surnames in Germany? https://wiki.genealogy.net/Deutsch_(Familienname) comments: »Der Name wurde vor allem in Grenzgebieten mit gemischter Bevölkerung gegeben, später auch jüdischer Name« I learned for the first time today of Alfred Deutsch-German, an Austrian Jew who was killed in the Holocaust. -- ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out / How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’ (C. Moore)