Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us13.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=2=G?=mjcjo>JO1KPoR=[]LjZ2dFDe1diGUY=l>VncnWDg^5>Ca2o_^63I1 X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net From: Mike Mocha Subject: Re: Philips TL-S bulbs Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design X-Face: $U`Uhy}9baNge-Vz>P*B?Kz''{nI8:v8([FP0v!x|*5U!g!A5Mh =?UTF-8?Q?l3J\=5B-\6x=28l<=3BY5~\q23I=0A?= c>%!R)QksWH#{/2_/j'7N\"J`*Z$5AVkV =?UTF-8?Q?kv=5FK5tk|=40k=5F=29=286Fz\ZsxhTEkSLeo1nsu7\Z<=3BV=283rSrwl"=3B=0A?= J;aIwiq%k=Q<& apos;,|&V+lJc({~zA8fx=63iKrI#bNO+$'1;0b=90/a6zwIO)B0_(KJg#}^b$ Z}rxT=3= References: <6615961d$0$897423$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1qrsilx.5w68h73o0kh2N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: --==RHW==-- x-no-archive: yes User-Agent: Pan/0.155 (Kherson; fc5a80b8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 10 Apr 2024 15:16:56 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <6616ad68$0$2422113$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1712762216 reader.netnews.com 2422113 127.0.0.1:53421 Bytes: 2417 On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:44:52 +0100, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Mike Mocha wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I have an old rail car design that used ballast-free florescent tubes >> in a 600 VDC circuit; bulbs used in series with power resistors, the >> circuit basically put 100 VDC or 60 VDC over each bulb. There's no AC >> source on the car. > > I think those tubes needed special switches to reverse the polarity each > time they were switched on. This was to prevent darkening of one end of > the tube after a few hours, caused by migration of the mercury. You may > have to replace the switchgear if you fit inverter-powered lamps. > > If you contact a tramcar manufacturer, they should be able to put you in > touch with some companies that supply modern lighting equipment for 600 > VDC. You might be correct about this in terms of a good practice, but in the design I'm dealing with this is not the case, and thus possibly the reason so many of the tubes burned out. I am in contact with several companies that supply low voltage LED lighting for rail vehicles as a parallel path.