Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hank Rogers Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple needs to explain that bug that resurfaced deleted photos Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 19:46:47 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 117 Message-ID: References: <20240523204041.B71801200A8@fleegle.mixmin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 02:46:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8993db2c3d7211c80a6d3823a0026be1"; logging-data="303013"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19lqVZ6yI1vR2Cg8iPqvcvoZICpDNFVvSE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:UwvCXahM5O6ndXkPxXgvQbiCstA= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 7451 badgolferman wrote: > Andrew wrote: >> It's no longer shocking how ignorant the Apple religious zealots are, so >> here are just a few search terms for all the cases Apple lost that the >> ignorant Apple religious zealots haven't heard about - but which everyone >> else knows about since every one was discussed in this very newsgroup. >> >> For example: >> >> "Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate >> Settlement Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries >> and Performance Throttling" >> >> *France: Watchdog Agency Fines Apple for Deceitful Practice* >> >> "HOP accused Apple of intentionally causing older iPhone models to >> slow down in order to push owners to replace them with newer models." >> >> *Apple Settles with French Authorities over 25 Million Fine* >> >> "Under French law, using misleading commercial practices >> is a criminal offense." >> >> *Apple pays out over claims it deliberately slowed down iPhones* >> >> "The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed >> a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had >> deliberately (and secretly!) slowed down some iPhones." >> >> *France hits Apple with $27 million fine over the battery issue * >> >> "Along with the fine, the agency is also compelling Apple on its >> website in France to display a notice telling consumers that the >> company has been found to have engaged in deceptive commercial >> practice by omission regarding the software updates starting with >> iOS 10.2.1 that throttled iPhone 6ขs, as well as the iPhone SE >> and iPhone 7." >> >> Jolly Roger wrote on 26 May 2024 18:50:00 GMT : >>> Both sides settled amicably... >> >> Since Apple was guilty, a billion dollars in penalties was the best they >> could get, so, yeah, sure, I'd be amicable if I got a billion from Apple. >> >>> and Apple admitted no wrongdoing... >> >> Ah, but Apple did in the French criminal case where part of the agreement >> was Apple had to publicly admit they were sorry for a month, Jolly ROger. >> >>> which >>> means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for >>> billions of dollars. >> >> The total is well over billions of dollars that Apple lost, Jolly Roger. >> >>> He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it >>> without question. >> >> Apple's losses in recent lawsuits is well over billions of dollars. >> >>>> [1 quoted line suppressed] >>> >>> Nope. The overwhelming majority of these lawsuits were settled amicably >>> by both sides, with Apple admitting no wrongdoing - nobody lost those >>> cases - they were settled. >> >> They had Apple over the legal barrel given how guilty Apple was, so, yeah, >> sure, they were happy to get billions of dollars in penalties from Apple. >> >>>> [1 quoted line suppressed] >>> >>> Nope, Apple mentioned the power management feature in the release notes. >> >> It's not surprising that you ignorant Apple religious zealots are >> completely unaware of the separate lawsuits (which were combined) from >> dozens of state attorneys general that Apple also lost, mainly because >> Apple got caught separately secretly backdating those release notes. >> >> That one act of secretly backdating the release notes cost Apple millions >> of dollars in penalties - which - again - the attorneys general were happy >> to amicably extract from Apple given how guilty Apple was in doing that. >> >>>> [1 quoted line suppressed] >>> >>> Nope, the release notes are public, right on their website. >> >> And yet, Apple clearly got caught secretly backdating the mention of the >> throttling, Jolly Roger. The fact you're unaware of what everyone else is >> well aware of (given it was a separate court case) is no longer shocking. >> >>> Nope, and you can't cite this supposed lie, because it doesn't exist. >> >> It's a separate court case, Jolly Roger. Which you're ignorant of. >>> >>>> [1 quoted line suppressed] >>> >>> Nope, there were no criminal cases resulting from this performance >>> management feature which still exists in every iPhone sold today. >> >> Heh heh heh... The French criminal case is well known, Jolly Roger. >> It's no longer shocking how ignorant all you Apple religious zealots are. >> >>> Nope, untrue. Apple settles a lot of them amicably though - while >>> admitting no wrongdoing. >> >> It's no longer shocking that you Apple religious zealots think paying over >> a billion dollars in penalties means Apple did nothing wrong, Jolly Roger. >> > > If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying > lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than giving it to the > government and looking guilty. > Information about apple's lawsuits is not needed, and nobody wants it.