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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: power shortages
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 15:52:43 GMT
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On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:24:46 +0000) it happened
liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in
<1qq3x9g.1qopcx31ybd9guN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>:

>Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 12:23:16 +0000) it happened
>> liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote in
>> <1qq3oyk.wpq4jr3mtoe8N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>:
>> 
>> >Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>> >> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-i
>> >> >s-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>> >> >
>> >> >Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>> >> >the dark.
>> >> 
>> >> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear
>> >> power plants. They still have to find locations for 3, what if next
>> >> doors?? ??
>> >
>> >Can they find enough high ground to keep them clear of flooding if
>> >things go badly wrong?
>> 
>> Good question
>> https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/03/mps-back-call-to-build-four-new-nuclear-p
>> ower-plants-in-nl/ there is risk of flooding all over this country, dikes
>> with pumps protect it. OTOH things have been working with ups and downs
>> since 1960 or so..
>
>Unfortunately the possibility of some malevolent power flooding the
>country (or at least using the threat of that as a way of holding Europe
>to ransom) is no longer the negligible risk we once thought it was.

Indeed, and flooding was used in WW2 against German invasion at some point.

I do think nuking Leeuwarden mil airport (12 km or so from where I live) where F35 is stationed now
and maybe stores some nukes, could be a target for say Russia (or America ;-) ).
 https://panteltje.nl/pub/first_F35_lands_at_Leeuwarden_airport_IXIMG_0212.JPG
I used to bike there and watch the planes.... F16s at that time, takeoff and land,
many people there, air-shows too sometimes... 2 F16 crashed over the years close to here.
some people with radios there follow air traffic and tower conversation.
The water level in the canals and fields in and around Amsterdam is controlled by a central computer,
did some design for something there years ago.
I am sure it can be hacked or if power goes....