Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 22:49:51 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 07:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="48f68e1d0e8948705c48f8596ac4ee9b"; logging-data="2794920"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZtBJip64SVsNnVrxbbGnD" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:2WuSEbjRdPnOmmWE1UfWKpDP3HQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2655 On 5/17/2024 9:46 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >> Where it will be in 10 years is impossible to predict. > > I agree. So, you can be optimistic (and risk disappointment) or pessimistic (and risk being pleasantly surprised). Unfortunately, the consequences aren't as trivial as choosing between the steak or lobster... >> But, as the genie is >> out of the bottle, there is nothing to stop others from using/abusing it >> in ways that we might not consider palatable! (Do you really think an >> adversary will follow YOUR rules for its use -- if they see a way to >> achieve gains?) >> >> The risk from AI is that it makes decisions without being able to >> articulate >> a "reason" in a verifiable form. > > I know/have known plenty of people who can do that. But *you* can evaluate the "goodness" (correctness?) of their decisions by an examination of their reasoning. So, you can opt to endorse their decision or reject it -- regardless of THEIR opinion on the subject. E.g., if a manager makes stupid decisions regarding product design, you can decide if you want to deal with the inevitable (?) outcome from those decisions -- or "move on". You aren't bound by his decision making process. With AIs making societal-scale decisions (directly or indirectly), you get caught up in the side-effects of those.