Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!69.80.99.23.MISMATCH!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:04:16 +0000 From: John Larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: using a pi 400 to debug a pico Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:02:50 -0700 Organization: Highland Tech Reply-To: xx@yy.com Message-ID: References: <36kdqilnf6uih8ckcj6rn6busb3sio23a0@4ax.com> <20rgqilmf64j0r1psk7o6u7n26t00pf59q@4ax.com> <8ljpui5ips4ohhc6sv1klebar0vpc95tgn@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 X-Trace: sv3-B4KUyo9hONckYb9vbTMOsPBaBlXE9DJxxytHtu72km67aSJTqunq/yuvmsyL2c9I5z8kviW+SVAYT23!0NfT3tnk3I03cri8Q599jSqMNTcThpLJvX3ny8GMdHHIq5tJUkOIK8AmzZN+NnwiQDo9rdCHuROm!ZhrwlA== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3182 On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 05:38:52 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts wrote: >On 2024-03-09, John Larkin wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:51:58 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts >> wrote: >> >>>On 2024-03-09, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 01:26:48 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Why do many of the target PCBs have four additional giant holes? >>> >>>For the retaining hooks, AKA "legs", these are optional. > > >> I think they are some sorts of stabilizers; must make the connections >> more reliable. > >They are plastic hooks they make the connection more reliable by >maintaining it hands-free. Without them you must hold the connector >to the board fighting the spring force of the pogo-pins. > >> They really blow up the board area. I like my 20-pin >> ribbon connector better. > >Yes. > >> I can sneak the ribbon cable out of a closed box, for temperature >> testing or whatever. And bring out more signals. That pogo thing >> sticks up. > >It seems unsuited for your application. The real advantage of the pogo thing is its small cost saving, which matters in high-volume, low margin products. In high volume, one could both JTAG and access all the other signals (like the ones I want) with a whole-board pogo fixture, but that has downsides too.