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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: The 1st Amendment Apparently Doesn't Exist in New York Either
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:22:31 -0400
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:13:19 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Fresh off a New York judge illegally declaring that 1/10th of the Bill of
>Rights has been repealed in her courtroom, the governor of New York has
>announced she'll be policing 1st Amendment protected speech if she doesn't
>like what you're saying.
>
>New York Announces it Will Take Citizen Surveillance and Censorship to the
>Next Level
>
>Like the plot to a dystopian movie, New York will now monitor social media
>writings, collect data, and use law enforcement to crack down on any
>expression it deems to be hate speech.
>
>New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) announced on Monday that the state will ramp up
>surveillance efforts of social media accounts and that law enforcement will
>take proactive measures, including contacting people on suspicion of using
>"hate speech".

How are they going to know who is a NYer and who isn't or are they
planning to contact anyone saying things they didn't like regardless
of where they live in the world?

>Hochul cited the rise in anti-Semitic activity in New York and especially New
>York City, where the world's largest population of Jews outside of Israel
>resides. Hochul also mentioned alleged "Islamophobic" incidents, which she
>claimed were increasing and going under-reported.
>
>The governor said she would also be increasing police presence, which she
>stated has been focused on protecting potential targets including "synagogues
>and yeshivas and mosques and any other place that could be susceptible to hate
>crimes or violence".
>
>As part of that, Hochul explained, "...we're very focused on the data we're
>collecting from surveillance efforts-- what's being said on social media
>platforms. And we have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the
>negativity and reach out to people when we see hate speech being spoken about
>on online platforms. Our media analysis, our social media analysis unit, has
>ramped up its monitoring of sites to catch incitement to violence; direct
>threats to others, and all this is in response to our desire, our strong
>commitment, to ensure that not only do New Yorkers be safe, but they also feel
>safe because personal security is about everything for them."

Now if they are limiting their actions to those people who appear to
be planning attacks on others then that is something I would expect
law enforcement to do. 

>[What the hell is the gobbledygook in that last sentence? "Not only do New
>Yorkers be safe"? "They also feel safe because personal security is about
>everything for them"? Who's writing this crap? Cardi B?]

It isn't gobbledygook but poorly written. She is talking about the
difference between actual security and security theater. So they will
be taking actions that are designed to help people feel safe. Like the
national guard showing up a few hours each week in the subways of NY.
It doesn't actually change the safety of the subways but it can help
people feel safer or think about the TSA having everyone take off
their shoes before getting on a plane.

>Last month, Hochul and New York City Mayor Eric Adams demanded that social
>media platforms monitor speech and shut down "incitements to violence", with
>Adams insisting, "These guys are experts. If they don't want to do their job
>of policing themselves, I really believe it's time for the federal government
>to step in."

How do you decide what is just people using their freedom of
expression versus someone crossing the line to inciting violence?

>The calls come as Europe ramps up censorship of alleged hate speech, including
>pressuring X owner Elon Musk to censor the posts of online users. Many
>European nations now have laws that have made the expression of religious
>beliefs to be viewed as banned speech. This week Finnish Member of Parliament
>(MP) Päivi Räsänen and a Lutheran bishop were acquitted after four years of
>trials and investigations simply for sharing the biblical view on marriage and
>sexuality. And in the U.K., an Army veteran will soon be tried for silently
>praying for his deceased son outside of an abortion clinic.

Um, perhaps they missed the point. That is Europe, where the laws and
traditions are different from this country. Hell, we've got government
officials calling on God to help save the nation. No way in hell such
censorship as the article mentions could pass here.


>
>[But notice these European countries  never arrest the Muslims who openly call
>for the deaths of Jews and Americans.]
>

>https://www.standingforfreedom.com/2023/11/new-york-announces-it-will-take-citizen-surveillance-and-censorship-to-the-next-level/?twclid=2-6oshw3g6bxsmwqt160vrgne5i
>