Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:08:14 +0100 Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net LlBfhk6lq2NPMkdQtBPEXAG5jpcNuy37JQZcdscgZS8t4UPd7z X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:agrp1bAXVyjcQjW0FKzrE8CUZ0I= sha256:gQvfE19FdIfWqPJwUiHW17HClaqeElmD3gTbJYN6DDA= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3820 On 2024-03-10 03:30, Newyana2 wrote: > "Carlos E.R." wrote > > | > As V said, the simple answer is that they want to spy. > | > | No, that's not it. Not for a bank. > | > > Of course that's it. > > | They want to know that you are an actual person with a phone and > | contract. They have to trust the company giving those numbers. > | > > An actual person with a phone contract? So you're saying that > having a cellphone is more proof of ID than my drivers license? You've > been drinking the kool-aid. You can not send the drivers license online. > > At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture > ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and > access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice > message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of > proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and > wired to -- a physical address. > > Investing with the US Treasury does not require a cellphone. > They send a code via email. > > My Tracfone was bought at BestBuy. At no point did I have to > enter an ID or open an account. Tracfone officially has no idea > who I am. I buy minutes at a drugstore every 3 months. There's > no inherent security or proof of ID with cellphones. If I were going > to do anything online requiring a cellphone, I'd be using that Tracfone. > The problem, as I noted, is that if I lost the cellphone I don't feel > confident that I'd be able to get into my account. There's no one > minding the store. > > I ran into a similar issue with my brotyher who had a stroke. I > tried to get his email. Google wouldn't let me. They wanted 2FA. > He'd never set up 2FA! Apparently they saw that I was logging in > from a different location, on a different device. There was no way > around it. One doesn't just call a tech support person at Google. > > So it's pure bullshit for them to talk about security and even more > BS to talk about confirming who you are. The only credible reason to > require 2FA via cellphone is to track you. What on earth are they going to track? It's a bank, not google. Ask them, why they do it. It is documented somewhere. A mobile phone is a device that you have, that "everybody" has already, so they don't make you buy a gadget to identify you like some banks use. Ask them: I do not want to use the phone, give me the device. If you have enough money they give you an electronic thing like a key with a display. So, if you do not pay for the device, they allow you to use a mobile phone. A real actual mobile phone with a "real" number. Not a modern fangled googlesomethingnumber. Banks. Tradition! Stability! Not modernity. -- Cheers, Carlos.