Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 15:15:42 +0000 From: John Larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi5 versus other cheap Intel based boxes for general computing Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 08:14:04 -0700 Organization: Highland Tech Reply-To: xx@yy.com Message-ID: <3tgt0jp1gc3k3bf0e7ml4b1qp90kvdabiu@4ax.com> References: <7iuq0jhktvipg5vjiaenk2101hdvtfnpru@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 63 X-Trace: sv3-blfw9sF4+yBCCS817gv5AAnaxMrnmFCa9s+BWnneay+CuKmr7iBVkbVJrgKpUGydIwc3FJR0zYjzyFo!8HZlhX5u3aHKsP63PMyxeyHKz6xShnt3zzYRTjWfCWqQKP6K8Dojq8TijBBM4XvN7yt7FM28XLim!DjemnQ== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3850 On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:19:06 +0100, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >On 03/04/2024 16:54, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 17:38:29 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >> wrote: >> >>> On 4/3/24 16:57, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 05:21:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> What somone learned when he replaced a cheap Pi 5 PC with a no-name Amazon mini desktop >>>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/what-i-learned-when-i-replaced-my-cheap-pi-5-pc-with-a-no-name-amazon-mini-desktop/ >>>>> >>>>> All that said, I post this from a Pi4 8GB, it is sometimes really slow, >>>>> but I like and use the GPIO port. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Considering how important a computer is to our professional and >>>> personal lives, why do people go to great effort to save a few >>>> dollars? >>>> >>>> If a cheap PC fails, it will take days of your time, or more likely >>>> weeks, to recover. >>>> >>> >>> If an expensive one fails, it takes just a much. > >It is sometimes worth paying a premium to have a machine that is fast >enough for your immediate project needs (even if cheaper ones are more >easily available). You pay quite a high premium for that last bit of >performance when it is still very new. >>> >>> Jeroen Belleman >> >> Presumably it fails less often. Cheap electrolytics, cheap fans, >> under-cooled parts will fail. > >Some of the best designed PCs are from the gaming community suppliers. >If you remove the graphics card entirely the main CPU graphics system is >more than good enough for all 2D design and some 3D rendering work. > >They perform incredibly well and have huge slow fans so under ordinary >heavy loads they remain very quiet. Ones intended for corporate office >workers tend to have inadequate power supplies and small noisy fans >reflecting their typical workload and noisy environment. > >> I just bought four new identical tower PCs, for work, home, cabin, and >> a spare. Once my main box was set up, we cloned the SS drives to the >> other three. So if my work PC dies, I have three others available. > >Your choice but owning several machines of the same vintage leaves you >exposed to any glitches in the new machines or their OS's. MS has been >known to brick portables on Win10/11 from time to time - not fun at all. > >> They have identical monitors too, so my desktop won't go crazy if the >> video resolution changes. I hate when that happens. > >That is a bit OCD. And that is a bit rude.