Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: A fresh take on the Star Wars films Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 19:06:45 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <20240507112300.00000489@example.com> <20240507145836.00002627@example.com> <17cd7a51016a7bef$29864$291924$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> <1949493251.737020543.085107.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <1730927377.737068025.232498.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 01:06:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="db309e9fe0cc3757fa1b14c5f99e84de"; logging-data="1711851"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/RLuUzM++N9x9EHm8nAePBPmcT+t7uQfw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:o8L8eodR6XCJ8ePWbHbspK+zPzI= In-Reply-To: <1730927377.737068025.232498.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4818 On 5/10/2024 5:42 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: > moviePig wrote: >> On 5/10/2024 4:03 AM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>> moviePig wrote: >>>> On 5/8/2024 5:45 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>> On 5/7/24 3:04 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 5/7/2024 2:58 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 7 May 2024 13:33:28 -0400 >>>>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/7/2024 11:23 AM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>> A friend send me a link to this video today and it seemed to be very >>>>>>>>> appropriate for this newsgroup so I'm posting it here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnEIDUXSULI [11 minutes] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd never thought of Star Wars as essentially being a silent film >>>>>>>>> with music replacing dialog but the presenter makes a reasonably >>>>>>>>> strong case for his argument. There are clips of interviews with >>>>>>>>> John Williams giving his thoughts as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Dialogue'.  Heh... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this your idea of a spelling flame? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know perfectly well that "dialogue" is the correct spelling everywhere >>>>>>> in the Anglosphere *except* in the USA. which insists on the simplified >>>>>>> spelling "dialog". I know and use both spellings. I just happened to >>>>>>> use the American spelling today. So what? >>>>>> >>>>>> The dialogue in the first SW was laughable ...enjoyable only because >>>>>> one could think the corn tongue-in-cheek, rather than the solemn >>>>>> myth-making it turns out was intended.  The actors themselves were >>>>>> astonished. >>>>> >>>>> Agreed.  How Cowboys and Indians in Space got to the level of hype it >>>>> has is beyond me. >>>> >>>> STARSHIP TROOPERS was another universally popular movie that seems to >>>> have evoked such a sharply schizoid audience reaction, with each of the >>>> two camps finding the other's take inexplicable. >>> >>> There are those who think Paul Verhoeven knows what he’s doing and then >>> there are the rest of us who are correct. >> >> Sharon Stone thinks he knew what he was doing... > > Hahahahahahaha > > Thus proving my point completely! > > The woman who insisted on continuing to claim she’d been in Mensa, even > after Mensa came out and called her a liar publicly. > > A good friend of mine who was at the time of Disney story artist got > dragged to a party after work on a Friday night. He entered this big house > and finds the walls all lined with posters for Verhoven movies. Yes, he was > at a party at Verhoeven‘s house. > > Now he and I had had many long discussions about Verhoven. He thought > Verhoven was a genius and I thought Verhoeven didn’t speak English well > enough to understand what he was doing. That he thought stuff like starship > troopers was a straightforward action film, and not an absurdist comedy. > > so my buddy calls me about two in the morning when he gets home and says > “oh my God you were right. He oesn’t have the slightest idea what he’s > doing his success has all been blind luck“ Well, *somebody* with wit had to have been behind it. That much tongue-in-cheek can't have been accidental. Fwiw, the Internet seems rather definite that Verhoeven (a dedicated Liberal) was satirizing.