Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Ping anim Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 22:02:45 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 75 Message-ID: <20240409220245.000039e4@example.com> References: <20240409160832.00005336@example.com> <439b1jhco2k195f6ls68bifpr6db4uqj07@4ax.com> <20240409171411.00001e16@example.com> <20240409185256.00001fbe@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 02:02:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bb88fddf6333b34cfa8ddd6058df26ca"; logging-data="589375"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+wldUkt9jTfTK45CjDsCmvdetCnWR+um4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:6uXgG+B78d/J5KcEaUwRx+ueGlQ= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240409-4, 4/9/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 4750 On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 21:09:58 -0400 shawn wrote: > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 18:52:56 -0400, Rhino > wrote: > > >On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 18:29:13 -0400 > >shawn wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:14:11 -0400, Rhino > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:37:35 -0400 > >> >shawn wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 16:08:32 -0400, Rhino > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >One of my friends just shared a video with me touting the > >> >> >features of the latest Tesla FSD (Full Self Driving) software > >> >> >and I was surprised to find that it was made in Scottsdale. > >> >> >It's essentially the first video footage I've seen of the > >> >> >place. > >> >> > > >> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX4kekZ2Fps [25 minutes] > >> >> > > >> >> >I've always found it interesting to see places I've never been. > >> >> >They always seem to look different than whatever I've > >> >> >anticipated. This is no exception. I suppose I was expecting > >> >> >more sandy desert and cactus and fewer boulders and scrub > >> >> >grass and palm trees ;-) > >> >> > > >> >> >Anyway, anyone curious to see what the area looks like might > >> >> >find this an interesting video. > >> >> > >> >> Looks much like it did back in the 90s. I spent a week out in > >> >> the Phoenix area for work. Now if you head North/North East > >> >> about 100 miles you will find much more trees and the temps > >> >> will be much cooler as you head into the mountains. > >> > > >> >Am I safe in assuming that the trees were planted by people rather > >> >than natural processes and that the existence of the trees has > >> >caused the cooler temperatures as approach the mountains? > >> > >> In the Phoenix area it's mostly planted trees. Going up NE of > >> Phoenix into the mountains you get trees that were naturally > >> there. The cooler temps are more due to the higher elevations than > >> the trees as they aren't the thick groves you see in Canada or on > >> the east coast of the USA. After all you go north/NE of > >> Phoenix/Scottsdale the elevation changes from close to sea level > >> up to several thousand feet above sea level. You can see the > >> change more dramatically at the Grand Canyon where there can be > >> 10-15 degrees difference between the top of the canyon and the > >> bottom, a difference of about five thousand feet or more. > > > >Thanks for clarifying that. Somehow, I thought you were implying that > >the trees alone made all the difference but it seems I misread your > >intention ;-) > > No, I was just commenting on the expectations that many people, myself > included might have for a place like Arizona. Expecting there to be no > trees at all when in fact, depending upon the climate (which can vary > depending upon the elevation), there can be plenty of trees and other > types of greenery. > Arizona is just one of those places where you can feel the difference > the elevation makes in the temp in just a few hours by just walking in > a place like the Grand Canyon. Normally we would have to drive for > hours to see a significant change in temps that are solely due to > elevation changes. We're "on the same page" now ;-) Thanks for explaining what you meant. -- Rhino