Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 10:57:48 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <54c63jh4m2ckd2sl1gsj0h63kgrlnnbtlq@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 12:57:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7f8af2197f9cc2daf9d428a9f9c8ba1e"; logging-data="4004546"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/oqtkMlyAkK9OlpHLVKImE/kw0LGnuTc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:FI636uu9NNhURUgrCqI4PBxE19o= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 2053 The Horny Goat wrote: >Wed, 1 May 2024 13:58:03 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>Landlords and tenants represent themselves in housing court all the >>time. Judges certainly expect this and there's too little money at stake >>to make it worth hiring a lawyer in many instances. >>How did he fail to support his facts? >If you're talking about my son's case he thinks the landlord's lawyer >flim-flammed the judge with a nebulous theory that my son thought >would be exploded by a competent lawyer. I don't know the details so >can't intelligently comment but no question he thought he had an >exceptionally strong case going in. Well, I'm just not following. The contract and timely payments are evidence of tenancy. These are the facts. The judge has to rule on them (as there's no jury in housing court) and I don't see how a lawyer's nebulous theory can trump facts submitted in evidence. Your son should have won with a proper presentation with or without a lawyer.