Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Students go after the hypocrites Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:42:43 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <35ab3jdrch3u0ph0u996vc0l0advdc07m1@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 19:42:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="40a1d383888994c45f6bff6cd4b36ba9"; logging-data="3615124"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6VyimDxQcczmQJsb/64Wa7uPksLXI25o=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:042oaMi4b/JATzwjZezCB0ah5Is= Bytes: 4198 On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 10:39:06 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom > wrote: > >>On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:01:41 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:27:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:06 -0500, John S wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:59:03 -0500, John S wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome to s.e.design.politics. Go to some other group for >>>>>>> electronics design discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just you wait for the run-up to November 5th! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I don't do politics. So...what is your point in terms of electronics >>>>> designs? >>>> >>>>My point is that every time there's been a presidential election, this >>>>group becomes us.talk.politics and any discussion of electronic design >>>>becomes off-topic and deprecated. >>> >>> It was declining anyhow. >> >>I don't believe so. Like you, I've been here for the best part of 30 >>years and the s/n ratio's about the same now as it was then. >> >>> I think that people who can actually do component-level electronic >>> design are becoming rare. Kids in college type more than they solder. >>> I've had interns who are afraid of electricity and panic when I ask >>> them to analyze a 2-resistor voltage divider. >>> >>> 10 volt battery feeding series 9K and 1K resistors. What's the voltage >>> across the 1K? They stutter and it's hilarious. >> >>You're not telling me these people have an EE degree FFS?? > > Interns are usually 3rd or 4th year EE students. "Uhh, I don't remember > that equation." > > A fun thing to do is to ask them about their senior EE project. > > I have another quick test, to whiteboard a simple NPN emitter follower. > Intel is welcome to the ones that can't pass that! > > > >>> I took a tour of the Cornell EE school, and I counted screens. I saw >>> 23 computer screens and one oscilloscope. >> >>Oh dear. >> >>> If EE grads are any good, the semiconductor outfits scoop up the best. >>> >>> It takes no skill to rant endlessly about politics. The thing I like >>> about circuit design is that it has to work and it doesn't take long >>> to find out if it does. >> >>My dear fellow, you're just going to have to become accustomed to this >>group moving over to politics increasingly over the next 5 months. AISI, >>this forthcoming election will be absolutely *critical* to world peace >>and I do wish more people would wake up to the peril we're in if Trump >>doesn't win come November. > > There seems to be a trend for people to move from the left/right > fringes, towards the independent center. In other words, to show less > tribalism and a little common sense. That's definitely *not* the vibe I'm sensing from my present perspective outside of the country.