Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Bad reporting Hazards to Homeless article Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 21:30:44 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <20240414213044.00006825@example.com> References: <20240413162248.000059fe@example.com> <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 03:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4f18148a75f9f5bfab5544256221bdb6"; logging-data="4120168"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX194wIjIrLliuOjEkxuDWPF6UDt6PLy/dLc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:6T4PWEAlOgE8fMO+s2aa5btUiIQ= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240414-4, 4/14/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3717 On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:14:21 -0700 The Horny Goat wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:10:48 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: > > >You may not be, but I am. If you're violently mentally ill, walking > >around threatening people and attacking them, you need to be removed > >from society. If your illness is such that treatment is ineffective, > >then you stay there forever. But there's no reason the rest of us > >should have to run the risk of being attacked, stabbed, set on fire, > >whatever your delusions are telling you to do just going about our > >daily lives. > > Agreed - and to me that VERY much includes the guy vaping on the > outdoor patio at McDonalds in downtown Vancouver who was asked by the > dad at the next table to stop blowing his marijuana (which he was > taking by 'vape') into the guy's two year old's face. The response was > to whip out a 12" knife and fatally plunged it into Dad's neck. > > I was outraged when the newspaper reporter said all that could be done > was a 5 year sentence (which generally means release after 2 1/2) - I > would have gone for indefinite sentence until the guy had demonstrated > he was clean of all drugs and only then begun his sentence for 2nd > degree murder. > > Does any sane person believe this individual is safe to have on the > streets?!? I hadn't heard about that case. It is truly awful. I agree that THAT individual needs a very lengthy prison sentence and needs to get off the drugs. Was this guy aboriginal? I wonder if he got a Gladue recommendation for a reduced sentence.... I posted the other day about a drunk driver who killed a teenager here in Ontario in a hit-and-run. He hid the car very effectively for 15 years and eluded 140 investigators before an anonymous tip finally brought him down. When he started through the judicial process last fall, the prosecutor and defense came to an agreement for a plea deal and had him sent to prison for just 2.5 years! The most appalling thing is that the police had a recording of him telling his daughter about the accident after he was arrested: he told her that he had never once considered turning himself in. This put the family and friends of the victim into a horrible place for 15 years but the lawyers in their infinite wisdom didn't seem to count that AT ALL. -- Rhino