Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:55:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:55:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: bad sector Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF? Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android References: <4373b088-65dd-3569-a490-9c600f72ff01@invalid.nospam> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 44 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-aliZ8ggvQEAANjt0M5tu9KcUUOzSnODfugkyQcCLCMy7rdErCMWIRI6urlGNxRJnyF3cvktpnXsjuUP!6GAv4DWfFMeAA+OUMBKMUZOcvalzMTTrg1S6t2ls1ZI2XPCnteA+lDjvNNZpJ3l67xqMbxwXH848 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3470 On 4/28/24 10:00, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 28.04.24 14:56, Newyana2 wrote: >> On 4/28/2024 7:48 AM, bad sector wrote: >> >>> >>> You may not understand it but the fact remains that there *is* a lot of >>> confusion and my take on it is that the reason for the confusion is >>> shitty design. There have been and continue occurring thousands of live >>> mic or phone incidents EVEN with well designed idiot-proof LOW-TECH >>> devices. Digital crap should have either a hard on/off switch that does >>> nothing else AND an easily removable battery. My flexphone has half a >>> dozen ways to be turned off and even when I will know them all by heart >>> they WILL NOT suffice. Having to trust that the OS has turned the mic or >>> itself off is not the answer >> >> I can understand the frustration. One reason that I don't normally >> use a cellphone is because they're natural spyware devices. A second >> reason is the complexity and lockdown. > > Why are you writing in this group? > You are lacking any credibility. And you try to spread conspiracy > theories of the worst kind like the thread starter. I get a kick out of barbie-boys living in la-la land; if more positive and verifiable device controls including easy battery removal are not a serious threat to the snooping scum of the earth then why do they shriek in panic as if the offender had just killed their mother every time one mentions such changes? Why would easily removable batteries be such a bogeyman to some who claim to have no use for them if others do? Are they paranoid and fear that the batteries might pop out and never come back? The digital giants need to be trimmed back in terms of yards, not millimeters; so far legislation is scarce partly because legislators are traditionally just barely on the legal side of the septic tank and know shit about technology ...but the situation is evolving, they comply with the public will or soon enter oblivion. -- “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.” ― Thucydides