Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: GUILTY. All 34 counts. Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 15:07:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 17:07:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b00518ef602068e98bde4f199b5998a"; logging-data="2988015"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fD8iOwcYmdnJgtbLR2JQOX0DAnSnYqgc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:SkDPSF0EHP1IGHIrfOdvBscz4E4= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 5107 shawn wrote: >Sat, 1 Jun 2024 02:43:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>shawn wrote: >>>Sat, 1 Jun 2024 10:54:32 +1200, Your Name wrote: >>>>On 2024-05-31 10:46:00 +0000, FPP said: >>>>>On 5/31/24 4:48 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>On 5/30/24 4:17 PM, FPP wrote: >>>>>>>GUILTY. All 34 counts. >>>>>>I called it. Let the whining begin! >>>>>Yup... I was shooting for Friday. Really surprised, since a half hour >>>>>before, the judge was shutting it down for the day. >>>>Trump the Chump's whining startedd immediately and his braindead >>>>supports declared "war" not long after. >>>>Not that this decision means anything in reality. The whole mess will >>>>drag on for years longer yet with numerous appeals, counter-appeals, >>>>etc. Trump the Chump and most of the witnesses will be dead of old age >>>>before it ends, and even then you'll probably have their kids trying to >>>>clear their names one way or another. >>>Not that long but yes, it will likely go on for a couple of years. >>>There are two level of appeals at the NY state level and then Trump >>>can try to jump to the US Supreme Court if both levels of appeal fail >>>to overturn the verdict. >>There's no direct appeal from state court to federal court. They have to >>find a federal issue to dispute. >Yes, but as a federal prosecutor (former) pointed out today it is a >potential last stop. His point was that with this makeup of a Supreme >Court it's entirely possible they would find a reason to hear the case >if it gets that far. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfMgcR0XJhg This is similar to what I told you. There has to be a federal issue. His Colorado example isn't the same thing, as that was a state court trying to apply a provision in the United States Constitution -- the insurrection clause -- to Donald Trump with respect to his eligibility to be president and whether's he's qualified to be on the ballot in Colorado. Merely being tried in state court on a violation of state criminal law with respect to falsifying business records in entirely inadequate for a federal court to assert jurisdiction. There's always equal protection and due process claims to get a matter under state jurisdiction into federal court. Now we're getting into equity and not law. There are myriad writs that a judge may issue in equity under common law. Note that common law exists in state courts (with the exception of Louisiana) but not federal court as the federal constitution abolished it. However, the first Congress re-enacted various provision of common law into United States law so they are available to the federal courts to use, and precedent from English courts (except during the reign of James II) comes with it. Here's a better explanation from Mark R. Levin on what a convicted defendant must do to preserve his right to timely appeal in state court, and then apply for equitable relief with the US Supreme Court and what the applicant would need to assert. In this case, merely being a presidential candidate isn't adequate. The harm asserted has to be with federal matters like federal elections and federal campaign disclosure law. I don't see how the latter is harmed, given that Michael Cohen was convicted of failure to disclose. At every step of the way of that money transfer, disclosure was necessary, but it's not like the Federal Election Commission made a finding that the law didn't apply to those prior undisclosed transfers, nor do I see a conflict with the state criminal law of keeping proper business records. https://x.com/marklevinshow/status/1796336250959380547 The Supreme Court is an appellate court with original jurisdiction on a mere handful of matters named in the Constitution. Why, then, may equitable relief be applied for directly with them and not a judge hearing equity in district court? I have never understood how the applicant can claim "emergency" bypassing the district court where the same equitable relief may be obtained.