Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 10:18:41 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 14:18:43 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="42565"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:f5++2W+11Es7hDw1YVycbnjKM/c= sha256:AYWOhLZJ3FvF8G7VepUhh+O9HHZFvtvXsxodEnIfRkM= sha1:cogLSeedaPkRNjbBWcZe/RT4TwE= sha256:muSKMYr2eFhI9LB9CnmBi3Mq8njwegrXPZT/SlwxsvY= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Bytes: 3360 "Don Y" wrote in message news:v29fji$2l9d8$2@dont-email.me... > On 5/17/2024 9:49 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >> "Edward Rawde" wrote in message >> news:v29bqi$14iv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com... >>> "Don Y" wrote in message >>> news:v29aso$2kjfs$1@dont-email.me... >>>> On 5/17/2024 7:11 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>> "Don Y" wrote in message >>>>> news:v28rap$2e811$3@dont-email.me... >>>>>> On 5/17/2024 1:43 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>> Not sure how he managed to say master debaters that many times while >>>>>>> seemingly keeping a straight face but it reminds me of this: >>>>>>> https://www.learningmethods.com/downloads/pdf/james.alcock--the.belief.engine.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing which bothers me about AI is that if it's like us but way >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> intelligent than us then... >>>>>> >>>>>> The 'I' in AI doesn't refer to the same sense of "intelligence" that >>>>>> you are imagining. >>>>> >>>>> Strange that you could know what I was imagining. >>>> >>>> People are invariably mislead by thinking that there is "intelligence" >>>> involved in the technology. If there is intelligence, then there >>>> should >>>> be *reason*, right? If there is reason, then I should be able to >>>> inquire >>>> as to what, specifically, those reasons were for any "decision"/choice >>>> that is made. >> >> What is a decision? > > Any option to take one fork vs. another. So a decision is a decision. Shouldn't a decision be that which causes a specific fork to be chosen? In other words the current state of a system leads it to produce a specific future state? I don't claim to know what a decision is but I think it's interesting that it seems to be one of those questions everyone knows the answer to until they're asked. > >