Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Christians getting it wrong Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 23:34:36 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 23:34:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="408f3ed53309c0722adecda71294feae"; logging-data="3228427"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ywsBHfAXbCb6M1PCe0wx47wpUgF5kyAY=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:KC0hLouJzE7iJex16dmz5BBQF7I= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 2505 BTR1701 wrote: >Apr 7, 2024 at 11:53:47 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>BTR1701 wrote: >>>Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>The Horny Goat wrote: >>>>>Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman : >>>>>>You're missing my point. The people who want to impose religion upon >>>>>>civil life want to do so through legislation and the courts, and they >>>>>>have failed at times, succeeded at other times. >>>>>As well they should have. >>>>Laws restricting or making abortion illegal are an example of success in >>>>imposing religion in civil life. >>>Only if you believe it's impossible to believe abortion is murder unless >>>you also believe in religion/god/supernatural etc. >>Unless some state finally got a law passed defining human life beginning >>at conception, then no homicide has taken place. If it's not homicide, >>then it's not murder. >The point is, it doesn't take a belief in a supernatural sky-tyrant for a >state to make the determination that life begins at conception. HUMAN life Since common law, an unborn child cannot inherit, and only a child born alive inherits. No one recognized that human life began at conception. It was never the law. I'd be more impressed with an argument like that if it came from someone who rejects religion. But of course it's coming only from those who demand to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us.