Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Ping anim Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 21:09:58 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: References: <20240409160832.00005336@example.com> <439b1jhco2k195f6ls68bifpr6db4uqj07@4ax.com> <20240409171411.00001e16@example.com> <20240409185256.00001fbe@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 01:09:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2babce8064f7ecfcf46d796e31b45b84"; logging-data="597785"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Fh8fxg+eu9XTFb5gP+4BWRdSKGdIQ9bY=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:KdlzfsaT9glKBSw7qrusiPY21YE= Bytes: 4287 On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 18:52:56 -0400, Rhino wrote: >On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 18:29:13 -0400 >shawn wrote: > >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:14:11 -0400, Rhino >> wrote: >> >> >On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:37:35 -0400 >> >shawn wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 16:08:32 -0400, Rhino >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >One of my friends just shared a video with me touting the >> >> >features of the latest Tesla FSD (Full Self Driving) software and >> >> >I was surprised to find that it was made in Scottsdale. It's >> >> >essentially the first video footage I've seen of the place. >> >> > >> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX4kekZ2Fps [25 minutes] >> >> > >> >> >I've always found it interesting to see places I've never been. >> >> >They always seem to look different than whatever I've >> >> >anticipated. This is no exception. I suppose I was expecting more >> >> >sandy desert and cactus and fewer boulders and scrub grass and >> >> >palm trees ;-) >> >> > >> >> >Anyway, anyone curious to see what the area looks like might find >> >> >this an interesting video. >> >> >> >> Looks much like it did back in the 90s. I spent a week out in the >> >> Phoenix area for work. Now if you head North/North East about 100 >> >> miles you will find much more trees and the temps will be much >> >> cooler as you head into the mountains. >> > >> >Am I safe in assuming that the trees were planted by people rather >> >than natural processes and that the existence of the trees has >> >caused the cooler temperatures as approach the mountains? >> >> In the Phoenix area it's mostly planted trees. Going up NE of Phoenix >> into the mountains you get trees that were naturally there. The cooler >> temps are more due to the higher elevations than the trees as they >> aren't the thick groves you see in Canada or on the east coast of the >> USA. After all you go north/NE of Phoenix/Scottsdale the elevation >> changes from close to sea level up to several thousand feet above sea >> level. You can see the change more dramatically at the Grand Canyon >> where there can be 10-15 degrees difference between the top of the >> canyon and the bottom, a difference of about five thousand feet or >> more. > >Thanks for clarifying that. Somehow, I thought you were implying that >the trees alone made all the difference but it seems I misread your >intention ;-) No, I was just commenting on the expectations that many people, myself included might have for a place like Arizona. Expecting there to be no trees at all when in fact, depending upon the climate (which can vary depending upon the elevation), there can be plenty of trees and other types of greenery. Arizona is just one of those places where you can feel the difference the elevation makes in the temp in just a few hours by just walking in a place like the Grand Canyon. Normally we would have to drive for hours to see a significant change in temps that are solely due to elevation changes.