Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: legg Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Operating temperature derating Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 13:45:28 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 19:43:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="901be6abd0a8c7b73f8d4bbbfb09f4cb"; logging-data="1698926"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX189b1YgmkqRwa73lXSON7mO" Cancel-Lock: sha1:TaPCo7rN2Or0eyQ7U4W/yiBt7l0= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 1878 On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 07:52:58 -0700, Don Y wrote: >Presumably, one should feel comfortable using a device at the >published operating temperature extremes "forever". > >But, what sort of derating likely went into that specification >in the first place? Sad another way, how much *beyond* those >limits might want suspect you could operate the device? There are two basic limits to operating environment temperatures. Junction temperature limits are usually proscribed below book Tjmax for an agreed mtbf. Sometimes the environmental limits can be extended under reduced performance guidelines, without exceeding agreed Tj limits. For a whole product, there's usually other component limiting factors that occur first - electrolytic and film capacitors, insulation system ratings and surface touch restrictions. Performance is measured with these specified limits in mind. or not. RL