Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:01:35 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 20:01:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bd6a30e75bd980f053ded4b2884c30be"; logging-data="3305903"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+CUHjvAQcOqwXtM0l0ZAHi6SSjUCCsnLE=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:31reTXFkWCHsokXwAvBoqobKei4= Bytes: 4556 On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 wrote: >On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" >wrote: > >> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said: >> >>> BTR1701 wrote: >>> >>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>> >>> >>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>> >>>> >>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>> >>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >> >> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >> Free Palestine...say it just once"? >> >> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >> her own hood. > >What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine". > >Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a >normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him >say it? I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free Palestine!" >Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you >have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if >he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a >phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does >that accomplish? What's the point? The clicks are all that matters. >They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >"black lives matter". My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person. >Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* >say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not. > >Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >*prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >of the power they wield. Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the war.