Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Arthur Lipscomb Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-03-23 (Saturday) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 08:23:17 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 328 Message-ID: References: <2032961552.733070666.685287.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <549740968.733174799.533570.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:23:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1f0d2b3b610c8e421378b7b970f13c87"; logging-data="1136748"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Fbh+xTCyQX+axOyzHyI9mJL26NLMuQ7Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ri4CLpc+viGTanB8mBPFKkm53r0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <549740968.733174799.533570.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Bytes: 17076 On 3/26/2024 12:41 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: > Arthur Lipscomb wrote: >> On 3/25/2024 8:50 AM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote: >>> >>>> 3 Body Problem (Netflix) I binged through the rest of the series about a >>>> pending alien invasion of Earth. SPOILERS! >>> >>> I powered through the entire Netflix series. I looked at the original >>> Chinese series on the Amazon prime, but there’s no English audio and it’s >>> way too much to read. I did read Ian‘s Wikipedia articles about all three >>> series (one unreleased), and the plots and history of the three books, the >>> first of which forms the basis for the various filmed projects. >>> >>> Also, it was recommended to me by our old friend Ob Veeus who is enamored >>> of the “stunning redhead“ who appears in a later episode. Sometimes I think >>> Ob Veeus and Ian are the same person. Apologies to you both. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Spoiler Space >>>> P >>>> O >>>> I >>>> L >>>> E >>>> R >>>> >>>> S >>>> P >>>> A >>>> C >>>> E >>>> >>>> "Judgment Day" Episode 5 - In the present day Jonathan Pryce is a >>>> billionaire on Earth who has known about the alien invasion since the >>>> 70s and has been working to make to make it happen. He is in direct >>>> communication with them and reads them stories and answers their >>>> questions. Then one day during a story he explains to the aliens that >>>> the stories are just made up, not real. The aliens are confused at >>>> first because they don't have that concept in their culture. Once Pryce >>>> explains the concept of fiction/deception to the aliens they say, "A >>>> liar is someone who cannot be trusted. We cannot coexist with liars. >>>> We are afraid of you." Then they cut off communication. They also stop >>>> protecting their human allies. >>> >>> Of course, they were already on their way to conquer us, so I’m not really >>> sure this makes a big difference. >>> >>> >> >> I think those humans were planning on cashing in on being the first to >> welcome their new overlords. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcUHQYhPTE >> >> >>> >>>> Meanwhile Benedict Wong and his people are actually really good at what >>>> they do, and now aware an alien invasion will arrive at Earth in 400 >>>> years, and are making plans to deal with it. As his boss (Liam >>>> Cunningham) says, "We've got 400 years to come up >>>> with a plan." >>> >>> In an earlier episode, when they first said that the star system was four >>> light years away (which makes it Alpha Centauri, although oddly, nobody >>> ever says that.) they also said the trip would be 100 years. Both of these >>> come from the original pilot for the 1964 LOST IN SPACE series. So does the >>> idea (in the book, at least) that the erratic orbit of their planet sends >>> it from blazing heat to freezing cold every couple of weeks and >>> unpredictably. Which is why they want to get the hell out of Dodge. >>> >>> There’s also a part in the book that I don’t know if they said in the show >>> which explains them abandoning their system more clearly. Although it’s >>> very definitely stated everywhere that you can’t solve the three body >>> problem ever and can’t make any long range predictions about what their >>> world will do they in fact have done so and know that sooner or later their >>> planet’s going to crash into one of the three suns (it doesn’t say if it >>> will be Chip or Ernie). Again why they have to get out of Dodge. >>> >>> There seems to be a lot of contradictions between what they say, and what >>> we see, along the lines of what you would expect from a dubbed translation. >>> For instance, one characters life is saved, because he’s wearing >>> bulletproof fatigues, although clearly, the bullet went right through the >>> fatigues (they point out the hole) and hit the body armor he was wearing >>> underneath it. >>> >>> >>> >>>> There's a scene where the group trying to stop the alien invasion needs >>>> to take out a tanker ship where Pryce and his followers are living. >>>> They need to do it in a way that doesn't give them warning or time to >>>> destroy any data they might have on board. And the way they do it is >>>> like nothing I've ever seen before. >>> >>> You need to read more Larry Niven. :-) It’s directly from his various known >>> space works. In Niven’s RINGWORLD, the opponents use the weapon first, >>> neatly decapitating one of the protagonists leading to such dialogue as >>> “you tied a tourniquet around his neck?“ And “wait a minute! He’s got a >>> spare!“ >>> >>> Our team then proceeds to take out the other sides entire city! And his >>> protagonist suffered the same guilt as the inventor here (who also turns >>> out to be the most beautiful woman in the world) does. I would also like >>> to point out that Eiza Gonzalez has turned into a damn fine actress. >>> >>> >>>> From my perspective it pretty much >>>> destroyed the ship too, so I'm not sure why gas wouldn't have been >>>> better. >>> >>> This is apparently how they did it in the book as well, and it doesn’t make >>> any sense in either case. Somehow this destructive method leaves the >>> computers so that they can be saved. I have no idea why. >>> >>> They seem to be afraid that the ship had guards who would push >>> self-destruct buttons on their computers, with their literal last breaths. >>> But I don’t know why they wouldn’t do that in the case of any kind of >>> attack. >>> >>> >>>> That being said, it was a sight to witness as everyone on board >>>> started to brutally die having no idea why or how. >>> >>> This is definitely the visual Highpoint of the series. >>> >>> >>>> However, humanity's >>>> win is brief. At the end of the episode, the aliens initiate direct >>>> communication with Cunningham's character. And explain to him that in >>>> 400 yeas time humanity will be more advance than the aliens and would >>>> easily be able to defeat them. Therefore, they then inform him they >>>> have the ability to monitor everything everywhere and they will kneecap >>>> humanity and prevent any future development. They then proceed to >>>> broadcast a world wide message on every screen that humans are "bugs" >>>> and appear to engulf the planet in a shield. Roll credits. >>> >>> Yikes! >>> >> >> I know! >> >>> >>>> "The Stars Our Destination" Episode 6. News breaks of an alien invasion >>>> fleet coming to conquer Earth and the general populace doesn't take it >>>> very well. Although the aliens had a lot of secret human followers, and >>>> now they have humans who are publicly willing to help. Things weren't >>>> *as* bad as they looked at the end of episode 5. The aliens ability to >>>> directly impact Earth (outside of messing with communications or making >>>> people see things) is minimal. Nevertheless, the governments bring >>>> together all the best minds to develop a plan to fight back. They know >>>> the aliens have the ability to see and hear everything they do so >>>> they'll be no element of surprise. "Let them listen." First up how to >>>> achieve 1% light speed so they can send a probe to intercept the alien >>>> fleet. And beginning development of a base on the moon as well as a >>>> fleet of human ships. Some of the scientists insist the technologies >>>> needed are impossible to and given they have 400 years why not wait a >>>> few decades to develop them. But Liam Cunningham's character has no >>>> intention of dying without making a contribution to the now planet wide >>>> war effort. >>> >>> Although later events make his stance puzzling at best. >>> >>> >>> >>>> "Only Advance" - Episode 7 and "Wallfacer" Episode 8 (the season >>>> finale). I binged and the final two episodes blurred together. >>>> Humanity begins to make preparations for a generational war against the >>>> aliens. There are 3 main plans put into place. One is construction of >>>> the moon base and space fleet. The second plan is to send a human brain >>>> in cryogenic freeze to make personal contact with the >>>> aliens . >>> >>> Niven did this. Twice. >>> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========