Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:53:31 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 128 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <2060261334.735593780.114012.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c9c7d3b228c3dc$71931$3085566$c4d58e68@news.newsdemon.com> <17c9e4bd7c6b53cc$8511$1354752$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com> <17ca342572edf3fa$12378$2044614$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> <17ca6a5bdb5da7d0$150469$4052113$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:53:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="28c8a92293f9678bf1d421537d776605"; logging-data="1194332"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19hIgzEkXqg25vd5nrS4BGtazk0Nbotyq8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1Vw0AX1r3IXU67JcLDqJqCfySOo= In-Reply-To: <17ca6a5bdb5da7d0$150469$4052113$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 8218 On 4/28/2024 6:19 AM, trotsky wrote: > On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote: >> On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>> On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   redistributed." >>>>>>>>>>>>>   There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from >>>>>>>>>>>>> striking her but says >>>>>>>>>>>>>   nothing about her emphatically asking for it. >>>>>>>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you >>>>>>>>>>> have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>> video that makes >>>>>>>>>>> me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch >>>>>>>>>>> an Alec Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>> video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>> revulsion, >>>>>>>>>>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or >>>>>>>>>>> say anything that >>>>>>>>>>> would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the >>>>>>>>>>> doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>> squander that >>>>>>>>>>> advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>> as humanly >>>>>>>>>>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>> mean, really, >>>>>>>>>>> quite an achievement. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any >>>>>>>>>> humane aspect to Moore's message. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required >>>>>>>>> to pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, >>>>>>>>> as the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is >>>>>>>>> out of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and >>>>>>>>> two together and keep coming up with fifty million? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended >>>>>>>> policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly >>>>>>>> to his persuasiveness. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an >>>>>>> asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character >>>>>>> called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you >>>>>>> don't get this I feel sorry for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and >>>>> torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually >>>>> mean so stop fucking around. >>>> >>>> The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>> >>> >>> And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is >>> your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck >>> Heston's treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine. >> >> Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and >> harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain. > > > So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by > the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there?  Is this > some sort of exercise in disingenuousness?  Hell, no gun was pulled from > his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM?  Let me guess: he > was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being > President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of > Washington.  Makes sense. What I'm saying is that, if there's nothing to gain from torture, you're left with merely the question of whether to cheer for it.