Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: TTman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 23:38:28 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 00:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5bdb61bafc9e7a9302206f3d3065c13"; logging-data="4041133"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mj0QRwBLCQPj10vfGesXU" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YZPVWfw2OTpBhGXA7/pkCsRZzJ4= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240609-4, 6/9/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3091 On 08/06/2024 23:53, Don Y wrote: > In the US, we are required (new construction) to have two dedicated 20A > (2400W) circuits to service countertop "small appliances".  In addition, > there is also a requirement for a relatively tight spacing between > (duplex) receptacles -- the intent to keep cords short (IIRC, < 4ft... > we settled on 3'). > > SWMBO was watching a britcom and commented at how few receptacles/outlets > were in evidence to serve the countertop.  Granted, each outlet is rated a > fair bit higher than US (each US outlet being 2400W -- the full load rating > of the branch circuit supporting it).  But, still, how do you address > NUMBERS of appliances in use, concurrently -- where each appliance will > likely draw only a fraction of the rated branch circuit's current so > total load isn't an issue? > > E.g., we (presently) have a ~1KW microwave oven and a ~1KW toaster as > ever-present loads.  To that, it is not uncommon to add an electric > wok, hand or stand mixer, pizzelle iron, etc.  The abundance of > outlets makes it easy to add appliances as well as providing flexibility > over where they can be put into use. > We mostly fit double outlet sockets 20-30 cm above worktops on the wall. Each socket ( there can be several spread around the kitchen area) can supply ( in theory) 30 Amps @ 230V. Back at the main fusebox, there will be a 30 Amp MCB( miniature contact breaker). All the sockets are wired in a 'ring main' format to prevent excessive volt drops at any outlet. A kettle will have a typical power rating of 3kW so ~13 Amps draw. Other main appliances - dish washer/washing machine/oven etc mostly have thier own separate supplies. Ovens will be wired using 6mm cable.Microwave/toaster coffe maker will be plugged itto a wall socket in the kitchen. Plugs will be fitted with either 3A/5A or 13A fuses depending. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com