Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hank Rogers Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad Subject: Re: Install iOS 17.4.1 now to patch 2 new zero-day vulnerabilities Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:49:28 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:49:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="74f35de0667d70c8dfd28179eef9bcc8"; logging-data="3427559"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cSaT8+er4hLBQ40fQnJNVYE3yqNllOWs=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:r1F4YvUVRxuMkpBXiPkI4aeynVI= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3964 Alan Browne wrote: > On 2024-04-25 05:37, Enrico Papaloma wrote: >> On 4/24/2024 9:36 PM, Chris wrote: >>>> The advice is that these iOS zero-day holes that Apple didn't find are so >>>> severe, the recommendation is for iPhone owners to update even if they >>>> were >>>> intending to wait for iOS 17.5 before running yet another update cycle. >>> >>> There's no reason to wait that long to install updates. >> >> But a lot of people do wait, for a variety of reasons, not the least of >> which is the way iPhones are updated can cause a variety of slowdowns. >> >>>> These are the 2 0-day holes that Google found that Apple missed in >>>> testing. >>> >>> Which is why all updates should be installed. Doesn't matter which OS. >> >> One smartphone OS does "seamless updates" where the user isn't even aware >> that updates are happening due to A/B partitions. Sadly iOS isn't that OS. >> https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-check-android-device-supports-seamless-updates/ >> >> >> But iOS is getting better with the advent of real patches in iOS 16 so >> maybe Apple will add the seamless updates that the other has enjoyed for >> years (where the OS updates monthly without the user even knowing it). > > These "features" are actually not missed on iOS by the vast majority of users. > Exactly. Many of us just use apple stuff as an appliance. We are not Super USERS. We are not Apple cult fans. The apple walled garden works fairly well for us. We are not trying to destroy apple. We do not care about the minutia of apple's imarket, istock prices, isales statistics ... nor any other ibullshit. In fact we don't give a shit about apple itself. We are only concerned with using our apple device and learning about it's behavior and how to solve problems that may arise. I have a fridgidare refrigerator, but I feel no urge to defend that company against anybody that says it's bad. I'm damn sure glad it wasn't made by apple. This group seems dedicated to quarreling over apple's statistical minutia, and trading sophomoric insults. Once in a great while, an honest question will be helpfully answered. A miracle. Occasionally, even a loyal apple cultist might provide such a helpful answer. But this is GODDAMN RARE. Usually, the reply is an attempt to start another new iquarrel. This is an ishame. To those who are knowledgeable: Please try to help people with your knowledge. Try to remember that sometimes, they are trying to learn, NOT attacking your GODS. You can answer without destroying apple. If you die tomorrow, Apple will survive, many years after worms have eaten your ibrain.