Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 00:55:18 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 04:55:20 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="50138"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:fgu7rB2oHRLrtmpyZ/h1x8r7iVU= sha256:0ghg6ZxRsOHOeZdFI5iuBed3fglaTXyydVFbNmWO/Ks= sha1:PnpDgHwP3wb3+dSchzqOWDQii/o= sha256:k0+BOPBi1+hbXnfFvdlKUOzbqAkd49nZ7gEnp+cfONw= X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Bytes: 3082 "Don Y" wrote in message news:v2ekc0$3qnsa$1@dont-email.me... > On 5/19/2024 8:45 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >> You seem to think that humans have something which AI can never have. > > Exactly. AIs have to be taught. So do humans. > If HUMANS (the gen-0 teachers) can't > come up with a way to TEACH -- in AI terms -- compassion, morality, > honesty, > love, creativity, respect, frustration, desire, etc. then how do you think > an AI is going to acquire those capabilities? Same way humans do. "compassion, morality, honesty, love, creativity, respect, frustration, desire, etc." Interesting that those are all abstract nouns and very emotional words. That reminds me of a converstaion I had with a sofware engineer 40 years ago. It was about whether computers could ever become like us. Him: Well you can't give it emotions. Me: Why? Him: [Silence for a few seconds then] Well you can't give it emotions. Me: Never mind. > > The "intelligence" part of AI is easy. You are wanting to create > "artificial humans" -- an entirely different prospect. > > Your Nobel awaits. >