Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com|netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Is English just badly pronounced French? Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 16:04:37 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <20240331160437.00000762@example.com> References: <20240331135630.000017f4@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:04:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="79f0389e4ce69ebbe2ccbfaed224fc22"; logging-data="2094422"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/M4GCz2NcnYzPfDDl7g0ALFz1qrPIOGR0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:jprnBeg9twY9pwpcFkcqASllLRI= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240331-4, 3/31/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 3412 On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:51:48 -0000 (UTC) "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > suzeeq wrote: > >On 3/31/2024 10:56 AM, Rhino wrote: > >>Sun, 31 Mar 2024 06:35:33 -0700 suzeeq : > > >>>>. . . > > >>>While GB officially went metric, many people still use the Imperial > >>>measurements, at least for linear measures, not so much for > >>>weight. > > >>The Brits weigh themselves in "stones" not pounds or kilograms. (I > >>believe a stone is 14 pounds.) These stones are definitely not > >>metric but I'm not sure they can truly be called Imperial either > >>since they aren't used anywhere outside the UK, as far as I know. > > >Yeah, I don't know where stone comes from. I was thinking smaller, > >like pounds and ounces. > > These were literal stones of a uniform weight used in trade, and > depending on the trade good, varied from 6 pounds to 21 pounds. They > would have been used on a balance scale. > I did not know that there were several different standard stones used for different trades. Did I remember correctly that the one used to weigh people is 14 pounds? > Yes, they are part of the Imperial system. I stand corrected. > Various acts of Parliament > starting in 1835 were intended to phase them out but that obviously > never happened. > > As a matter of trivia, yes the British Imperial System and U.S. > Customary System use a unit of mass. It's called the slug. It's > derived from a hypthetical 1 pound force accelerating a mass by 1 > ft/second squared. I've never heard of anyone actually using the slug in this way. There is, of course, the garden creature called the slug and the round, flat, coin-sized parts punched out of the boxes where you mount electrical switches and outlets are sometimes called slugs (at least around here) but those are the only two uses as a noun that I can think of, except perhaps a rough unit of liquid, as in "take a slug of this whiskey". I suppose the metric equivalent of a slug is what scientists actually use. -- Rhino