Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Bad reporting Hazards to Homeless article Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 16:05:04 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <20240413160504.00002a12@example.com> References: <20240413124631.00002cb8@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 22:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3b567f3cc1083766d4267e1b1bc2ce37"; logging-data="3343670"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Ecv3S6gssUWvhdhgWZYwXCgjr2dklEbQ=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:7z3oeTDgD0iVnfBOiKTybO76+m0= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240413-4, 4/13/2024), Outbound message X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 4386 On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 19:12:03 -0000 (UTC) "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > Rhino wrote: > >Sat, 13 Apr 2024 14:03:55 -0000 (UTC) Adam H. Kerman > >: > > >>Uptown viaduct fire reminder of hazards to homeless: 'There really > >>is no peace' > >>By Caroline Kubzansky and Rebecca Johnson > >>Chicago Tribune > >>April 13, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. > >>https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/04/13/uptown-viaduct-fire-reminder-of-hazards-to-homeless-there-really-is-no-peace/ > >> > > >>Despite the headline, we learn IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH that the > >>hazard in question to other homeless people was from a homeless > >>woman who, with either reckless disregard or murderous intent, set > >>her own tent on fire, which led to all the other tents catching > >>fire fire. Note that one of the homeless men interviewed stated > >>that the area under the viaduct is usually fried, so there are > >>fires set repeatedly. > > >"The area under the viaduct is usually fried": what exactly does that > >mean? I assume that the area isn't literally fried but I'm not sure > >what euphemism you're attempting here. > > It's what the homeless guy said. He meant that other homeless people > have set fires under that viaduct and there are scorch marks on the > abutments and sidewalks and underside of the viaduct. > Thanks for clarifying what the guy meant and sorry that I misunderstood you as saying it in the first place. > >>That headline was misleading, and I'd say who set the fire should > >>have been stated in the first paragraph. > > >>In paragraph six, the murder of a well-known homeless man (who > >>walked without disturbing others rather than just sitting in a > >>doorway) was conflated. But the crime against him was attempted > >>murder by someone who was not homeless; he was set on fire while > >>sleeping. It became a murder as he later died of injuries > >>sustained. > > >>This was just bad reporting entirely. The danger from homeless > >>encampments under viaducts is that one or more individuals will set > >>fires, and fires spread. Gee. Fires can even destroy viaducts. Maybe > >>allowing "permanent" encampments once people start fires is > >>horrifically bad public policy. > > >There was a major fire in a homeless encampment close to the > >Kitchener and Cambridge boundary. It's a miracle there weren't some > >fatalities. There's a homeless encampment in Kitchener that is very > >close to the transit hub that is supposed to be built that has > >serious problems with rats. The residents have also done significant > >property damage to nearby businesses. The city and region have tried > >to evict them but when it went to court, the judge was persuaded > >that the residents couldn't be evicted because it violated their > >rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. That case now > >serves as a precedent for the whole country making it hard to do > >much about homeless encampments. > > >Three cheers for our bleeding-heart activist judges: fooey! fooey! > >fooey! > > Was that judicial activism or is such a right created in law? -- Rhino