Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 03:52:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Christians getting it wrong Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <0R2dnX_qQJBlqo77nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: <0R2dnX_qQJBlqo77nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.hasname.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2024 08:52:22 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2511 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c44203bf514b06$59198$3716115$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 2912 On 4/7/24 7:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Apr 7, 2024 at 4:34:36 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" wrote: > >> BTR1701 wrote: >>> Apr 7, 2024 at 11:53:47 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>>> The Horny Goat wrote: >>>>>>> Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman : >> >>>>>>>> You're missing my point. The people who want to impose religion upon >>>>>>>> civil life want to do so through legislation and the courts, and they >>>>>>>> have failed at times, succeeded at other times. >> >>>>>>> As well they should have. >> >>>>>> Laws restricting or making abortion illegal are an example of success in >>>>>> imposing religion in civil life. >> >>>>> Only if you believe it's impossible to believe abortion is murder unless >>>>> you also believe in religion/god/supernatural etc. >> >>>> Unless some state finally got a law passed defining human life beginning >>>> at conception, then no homicide has taken place. If it's not homicide, >>>> then it's not murder. >> >>> The point is, it doesn't take a belief in a supernatural sky-tyrant for a >>> state to make the determination that life begins at conception. >> >> HUMAN life > > Doesn't change anything. No belief in supernatural ghosts is required for a > legislature to make that determination. What about preternatural ghosts Mr. Redundant? >> Since common law, an unborn child cannot inherit, and only a child born >> alive inherits. No one recognized that human life began at conception. >> It was never the law. > > That doesn't mean the law can't change absent a belief in Quetzalcoatl. > >