Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 05:35:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 22:35:49 -0700 From: Pluted Pup Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0001HW.2C0D8DB503C0A49130939238F@news.giganews.com> Subject: Re: [OT] The mass graves that never were? Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <20240530193243.00006135@example.com> <20240601120517.00001de5@example.com> Lines: 63 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Kels405JbLtQEwR37z2upNvGXJQeePZ1n7STbFtu0Bmg/gkx9NmTpKYYJM8EZk4J1ETeje/Egh4GLfV!ddZRtfLkkqun6R7KLeY4AYYgp+0M/0QNo6ZmdJff4pzquuc+esFirKG6rNYRnPGANBOpK+S7/9t+!2ETw X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4612 On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 13:07:18 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: > In article, > The Horny Goat wrote: > > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 12:05:17 -0400, Rhino > > wrote: > > > > > > Obviously the groups that have benefitted have been the aboriginal > > > > groups. A prime example are the "acknowledgements" you hear everywhere > > > > which implicitly recognize aboriginal claims that are by no means > > > > established much less valid. > > > > > > I despise those land acknowledgements. I participated in an online > > > health seminar last year via Zoom, had serious difficulties getting > > > connected and finally arrived about two minutes late for the start of > > > the meeting - and had to sit through a land acknowledgement. It kept me > > > from missing any of the useful content of the meeting but it irked me > > > to have to listen to it especially given that WE WERE ONLINE, not > > > standing on anyone's "sacred ground". > > > > Since retirement I have been 'attending' a lot of McMaster webinars > > which they publicize via the alumni association. Which of course is > > how I learned who their native neighbors were. (The difference of > > course being that southern Ontario is covered by native treaties > > whereas in most of southern BC - which is where 95% of the population > > is - native groups (I refuse to call them 'nations' since to me the > > idea of a 'nation' with under 10000 population being equal to Britain, > > France the US etc is beyond ludicrous) get all kinds of benefits from > > me and thee and have reserves but mostly no treaties) Obviously I know > > who all the tribes are in the areas of Vancouver and Victoria since > > you always hear them when there's a government announcement. > > About a month and a half a go, I went to a city council meeting for the > first time because I wanted to see what their plans were regarding some > adjustments to traffic flow in my neighborhood. > > The meeting started not with the Pledge of Allegiance to America, but > rather an "acknowledgment" that America is systemically racist and the > land our city is built on was stolen from the Gabrieleno Tongva tribe. > > (And how does a native American tribe end up with a hispanic name in the > first place? If that's what the original Spanish settlers called them, > isn't it perpetuating the racism or whatever to memorialize them with > the name their oppressors gave them?) > > When it came time for public comment, I got up and told them that (1) > you say it's "acknowledged" that America is systemically racist as if > that's a settled question of fact and not open for debate or challenge. > It is not. And (2) if you acknowledge the city and all its facilities > are stolen property, I'd like to know your timeline for giving it back > to its rightful owners. Because that's what you do with stolen property, > is it not? You give it back. If you're not planning on giving it back, > you're just a bunch of smug, insufferable leftist idiots who get off on > signaling your dubious virtue to everyone else. > > About half the rest of the people in the room gave me applause, which > was far more than I ever expected in California. So maybe there's hope > for us yet. Thanks for speaking up for the silent half!