Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 23:02:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 16:02:21 -0700 From: Pluted Pup Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0001HW.2C00027D02E5140C30B66938F@news.giganews.com> Subject: Re: Considering the feelings of felons Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: Lines: 50 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-KiY/1rdBFLP7Cvag6X+2lznuor1UrXuj2lAsAhrpydLM13JbVyKmmVjZusp24Toe8PU+fzvL1LjUA9a!lK8zKicVRxPy+7s+TQ3eGhEVgK0A1qN93R9fSdK/dIMRgpuK6HukDlzyGUxeuO2TYBW8jtn8WX/z!448w X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3264 On Thu, 23 May 2024 14:31:52 -0700, moviePig wrote: > > > > > > Does it help to point out there *is* a difference between "offenders" > > > and "justice-impacted individuals"? Hint: think of parole boards who > > > refuse to free a model prisoner as long as he maintains his innocence... That's the fault of the parole board, not the law, for not considering that it is possible for a person to have been unjustly imprisoned. I'll bet the typical "innocent" argument you're talking isn't like that at all but is more of "the crime I committed should never be prosecuted because the Law Is Unjust", or, in other words, "because the bitch deserved it." > > > > Just say you're guilty to get out, then tell anyone who will listen that > > you're really innocent and you only said you were guilty to gain your > > freedom. > > > > Of course such people aren't who the politically correct lunatics in the > > legislature are referring to and you know it. They're talking about the > > run-of-the-mill shitbag who commits crime, gets caught, prosecuted, > > convicted, and imprisoned. The hearts of these politicians inexplicably > > bleed for such people and rather than worrying about how their victims > > are coping with the violence and loss that have been inflicted on them, > > the pols sit around and think up new jargon to soft-pedal who it is > > these shitbags really are. > > I've no reason to doubt that, as I've been told, prisoners routinely > profess their innocence to each other. What inmates are you talking about? Inmates *brag* to each other about the crimes they committed. > And since we know by now that > *sometimes* they're right, we have to admit that some prisoners are > indeed "taking one for the team" in order for us (including them and > their families) to reap the stability our justice system provides. I doubt any inmate appreciates being an inmate. > But > at the same time, no, I don't understand how the wording change we're > discussing, though semantically meaningful, reached the top of any > serious legislator's priority list.