Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 17:04:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Inconvenient lefties Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <17c1b8d02846d30e$126117$1351842$40d50a60@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US From: moviePig In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 101 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 21:04:37 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 5978 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c1f554ce92d1e5$139428$3265$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 6357 On 3/30/2024 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Mar 30, 2024 at 7:35:37 PM PDT, "moviePig" wrote: > >> On 3/30/2024 4:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article , FPP >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Your side is banning words, and banning books, and banning curriculum >>>> there, Sparky. >>> >>> Oh, don't worry. You hypocritical lefties will ban books in a heartbeat >>> if they don't meet your ideological rigor: >>> >>>> An online bookstore that advertised itself as being committed to sharing >>>> ideas, even those which are deemed controversial, has removed titles from >>>> conservative authors amid backlash. >>>> >>>> Television host and activist RuPaul is a co-founder of the "all-inclusive" >>>> online bookstore Allstora, according to National Review. He started the >>>> online store with LGBTQ advocate and author Eric Cervini and drag performer >>>> Adam Powell. >>>> >>>> The site advertised that they would carry titles from authors of all points >>>> of view, and books for sale on the site initially ranged from Adolf Hitler's >>>> "Mein Kampf" to the graphic, controversial coming-of-age book "Gender >>>> Queer". >>>> >>>> "We're a marketplace for all books and all stories, with a focus on >>>> elevating >>>> marginalized voices," the site originally touted, according to NR. "You may >>>> find books you disagree with," a pop-up ad warned, while the FAQ page said, >>>> "Allstora has made the decision to carry all books" and "censorship of any >>>> book, perspective, or story is incompatible with the survival of democracy." >>>> >>>> "Banning books is never the answer," the site's messaging, which has since >>>> been deleted, said, according to The Mary Sue. "We cannot fight the >>>> ideologies of hate if we lack the ability to study, understand, and react to >>>> them. We do that by reading books." >>>> >>>> However, left-wing activists were outraged that Allstora offered titles by >>>> Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Matt Walsh, Riley Gaines, and Libs of TikTok >>>> founder >>>> Chaya Raichik, among others. At first, the website's founders attempted to >>>> diffuse tension by promising to create "a community-led flagging system for >>>> titles that are contrary to our core values and donating all proceeds from >>>> these titles to fight book bans," National Review noted. >>>> >>>> But that wasn't enough. After three days of critics railing against Allstora >>>> for selling "homophobic", "transphobic", "anti-woke", and "Nazi" books, the >>>> founders relented and removed all free speech messaging from the page. Many >>>> works by conservative authors were removed from the page, while some other >>>> titles remained available. >>>> >>>> The drama comes on the heels of RuPaul announcing a "Rainbow Book Bus" that >>>> seeks to distribute "diverse books to communities facing book bans and >>>> censorship, especially in LGBTQ+ communities". The bus will embark on a >>>> cross >>>> country tour later this year, the DRAG RACE host told People during an >>>> interview this month. >>> >>> And you've got a lotta balls condemning Republicans for 'banning words'. >>> You guys are the ultimate language police. >>> >>> First it was 'illegal alien' that was banned in favor of 'undocumented >>> immigrant', then that was too "othering", so we couldn't say that any >>> more either. Now it's 'pre-citizen', but I'm sure even that will be >>> decried as 'stigmatizing' at some point. Hell, the latino grievance >>> groups have even declared that calling someone a 'Mexican' is racist, >>> even if they are a Mexican citizen from Mexico. >>> >>> Then there's 'gangs' and 'thug'. Not allowed to say them anymore because >>> they 'stigmatize' blacks and latinos. Which forces good little progs to >>> beclown themselves like Newsom did during a press conference about gang >>> violence where he refused to say the word 'gang' and instead was >>> thoroughly mocked for bowing to the prog mob and calling them 'groups of >>> folks'. >>> >>> And there's all the words that are no longer allowed because the troons >>> get worked up over them, like "mother". The leftist government currently >>> in power has banned that horrible term in favor of "birthing person". >>> The troons actually want Mother's Day to be renamed Birthing Person Day. >>> >>> But yeah, you go on and keep whining about Republicans banning words. >> >> The tactic you're describing was invented by this guy: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz >> >> ...a *Conservative* who "advocated use of vocabulary crafted to produce >> a desired effect; including use of the term 'death tax' instead of >> 'estate tax', and 'climate change' instead of 'global warming'." > > And? Does that somehow mean leftists aren't the maestros of language > policing? > > It sure wasn't conservatives at Stanford University that issued a 30-page > dictionary of all the banned words on campus. Thought you'd want to know who invented it (and now gripes at it).