Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:01:17 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 102 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <2060261334.735593780.114012.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c9c7d3b228c3dc$71931$3085566$c4d58e68@news.newsdemon.com> <17c9e4bd7c6b53cc$8511$1354752$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="204336925d375a3b4fd12f5424d4d88b"; logging-data="482223"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX196Ug+oM5PFc39fkFZIFWSGPyL9uauY00M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:hBw1/mDlICi08Kpfz8USgo1MtGg= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 6461 On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote: > On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote: >> On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>> On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>   On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>   BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>>>>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney & >>>>>>>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne >>>>>>>>>>   "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the >>>>>>>>>> RUST movie >>>>>>>>>>   set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>   redistributed." >>>>>>>>>   There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>> her but says >>>>>>>>>   nothing about her emphatically asking for it. >>>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>> idiot scumbag you >>>>>>> have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>> video that makes >>>>>>> me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>> Alec Baldwin >>>>>>> video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>> revulsion, >>>>>>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>> anything that >>>>>>> would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the >>>>>>> benefit of the >>>>>>> doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>> squander that >>>>>>> advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as >>>>>>> humanly >>>>>>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, >>>>>>> really, >>>>>>> quite an achievement. >>>>>> >>>>>> It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where >>>>>> Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own >>>>>> home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, >>>>>> but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to >>>>>> Moore's message. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to >>>>> pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the >>>>> case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of >>>>> whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two together >>>>> and keep coming up with fifty million? >>>> >>>> The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended >>>> policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to >>>> his persuasiveness. >>> >>> >>> Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole >>> doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't >>> either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, >>> and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying. >>> Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I >>> used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching >>> this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle, >>> teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was >>> back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a >>> lobbying organization so the gun industry could profit by selling >>> more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this I feel >>> sorry for you. >> >> I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture. > > > It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and torture. >  Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean so stop > fucking around. The distinction is a matter of degree. What's the same is the motive.