Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us11.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=CmgA^0g9K]aIQi <6650d5a6$0$2363133$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex In-Reply-To: <6650d5a6$0$2363133$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 19 Message-ID: <6650d62f$0$2363134$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1716573743 reader.netnews.com 2363134 127.0.0.1:39457 Bytes: 1834 On 5/24/2024 2:00 PM, bitrex wrote: >> Yes, it is mysterious. Set both drain resistors to 3.3K and zoom way >> up on the two source voltages for the first 20 seconds. >> >> LT Spice may have some hidden asymmetry. It has to do math >> sequentially, maybe. >> >> In real life, parts will be plenty asymmetric. Especially jfets. >> > > There areĀ  bunch of variants of this circuit, I call it the "Forest Mims > Oscillator" cuz in one of his radio shack circuit books was where I > first remember seeing it as a teenager. I'm pretty sure he didn't invent it though and that I've seen it in books from the 60s also, it was probably invented about 5 minutes after the PNP.