Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 19:46:02 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's Battle With OpenAI References: <4AGdncoJueTB0cz7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 12:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 130 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-38Duyzdh/LuyGR9lhrWD3Dw46nBgJwVhhLT9v7qwZCgaRpzFuswDzAz1kgLkXDo3ulpG2zGLoltdZ1w!8G1Rh6k+R13yAZjEHpD2bUBfoE/CHkQBfVX0OGpsxnT7QOXm+lKhsO9N1pKKvW9ZFg/K6Crk4s0T!Ly0= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 7668 In article , FPP wrote: > On 5/26/24 2:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > > In article , FPP > > wrote: > > > >> On 5/25/24 11:35 AM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>> FPP wrote: > >>>> On 5/24/24 10:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>> > >>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/ar-BB1mWLqa > >>>>> > >>>>> Scarlett Johansson's powerful Hollywood agent, Bryan Lourd, wanted > >>>>> answers when he made an urgent call to Sam Altman last week: What do > >>>>> you think you're doing? > >>>>> > >>>>> Altman's artificial intelligence powerhouse, OpenAI, had for months > >>>>> unsuccessfully courted Johansson, who memorably voiced an AI assistant > >>>>> in the 2013 film HER. Last September, Johansson turned down an offer > >>>>> to work with OpenAI and voice a new assistant feature. > >>>>> > >>>>> Altman didn't give up. In mid-May, he texted Lourd, co-chairman of > >>>>> Creative Artists Agency, asking if Johansson might reconsider-- he > >>>>> wanted to show the actress something he'd been working on, people > >>>>> familiar with the interaction said. The camps couldn't settle on a > >>>>> time to meet. Then on May 13, OpenAI showcased an updated AI system, > >>>>> equipped with new voice assistants for its Chat GPT tool, including a > >>>>> female named Sky. > >>>>> > >>>>> Johansson was surprised and angry. She and Lourd thought-- and others > >>>>> agreed-- that Sky's voice sounded "eerily similar" to the actress. > >>>>> Lourd and the actress spent the morning fielding calls and emails from > >>>>> friends and associates, some of whom worried that OpenAI had simply > >>>>> appropriated Johansson's voice without permission. > >>>>> > >>>>> When Lourd confronted Altman, however, the OpenAI chief executive was > >>>>> incredulous. Did they really think the voice sounded like Johansson? > >>>>> Was she mad? > >>>>> > >>>>> So began the most dramatic episode yet in the collision between > >>>>> Hollywood > >>>>> and the exploding world of artificial intelligence. > >>>>> > >>>>> The emergence of AI as a rapidly advancing and perhaps unstoppable > >>>>> force > >>>>> has sparked deep anxiety in creative industries that for decades have > >>>>> been governed by strict rules of how creators are compensated for their > >>>>> work. The reason is that the language models that power generative AI > >>>>> chat tools are typically made using text, images, music and videos > >>>>> hoovered up from across the internet. That can include material that > >>>>> is copyrighted, valuable and often paywalled-- like Scarlett > >>>>> Johansson's > >>>>> voice. > >>>>> > >>>>> Johansson-- who just three years ago waged a blistering and public > >>>>> legal > >>>>> campaign against Disney-- hired a legal team to demand answers from > >>>>> Altman and OpenAI and issued an excoriating statement. > >>>>> > >>>>> OpenAI, however, said Sky was never intended to resemble Johansson, and > >>>>> that the company had hired a voice actor who recorded the part before > >>>>> any > >>>>> outreach to Johansson. People close to Altman say he wanted Johansson > >>>>> to be involved in the voice project, potentially as an additional voice > >>>>> or to promote the product. > >>>>> > >>>>> OpenAI paused use of the Sky voice on Sunday after receiving legal > >>>>> letters from Johansson's team of representatives. Altman said Monday > >>>>> evening in a statement that he apologized for failing to communicate > >>>>> better. > >>>>> > >>>>> Altman has been the most visible face of the AI movement since OpenAI > >>>>> launched ChatGPT in late 2022 and ignited a global frenzy over AI > >>>>> technology. He and the company face numerous challenges, including a > >>>>> slew of copyright lawsuits and mounting pressure to advance its GPT-4 > >>>>> technology. It's also trying to move past its leadership crisis from > >>>>> last November, when OpenAI's then-board of directors fired Altman for > >>>>> failing to be "consistently candid". He was quickly reinstated as CEO. > >>>>> > >>>>> For performers like Johansson and IP owners, it is hard to prove > >>>>> whether > >>>>> their likeness or content has been misused. Regulations governing the > >>>>> systems are scant. > >>>>> > >>>>> Altman in a speech last year said he and other OpenAI executives were > >>>>> inspired by the 2013 film HER, in which a man falls in love with his AI > >>>>> assistant, voiced by Johansson. The company aimed to develop an > >>>>> assistant like Apple's Siri or Microsoft's Cortana that users could > >>>>> talk to. > >>>>> > >>>>> Last May, the company sent out a casting call looking for male, female, > >>>>> and nonbinary voices in the 25 to 45 age range. It wanted voices that > >>>>> were warm, engaging and charismatic, internal documents reviewed by The > >>>>> Wall Street Journal show. "Someone you instantly trust and feel a > >>>>> kinship with. Nothing 'put on'." > >>>>> > >>>>> It whittled down a list of 400 applicants and flew actors to San > >>>>> Francisco last June and July for recording sessions. The actors were > >>>>> asked to sign nondisclosure agreements and refrain from providing voice > >>>>> recordings to OpenAI's competitors for three years after the product > >>>>> launch, the documents show. OpenAI says that the actress who played > >>>>> Sky was recording in the studio last July. > >>>> > >>>> Which is a complete crock of shit. > >>>> Wrong again, counselor. > >>> > >>> Are you yet again under the impression that I wrote an article that I > >>> quoted from the legacy corporate media? > >>> > >>> I'm not 'wrong again', Shit Shoes. I didn't say anything here to be wrong > >>> about. All I did was post an interesting article about show business in a > >>> TV newsgroup. > > > >> You posted Altman's lies. > > > > No, MSN/MSNBC/NBC put his comments in their article. I merely posted the > > article. > > > >> Why didn't you post Altman calling his new AI voice: "Her"? > > > > Because that wasn't in MSN/MSNBC/NBC's article. Are you finally coming > > around to the fact that the corporate legacy media can't be trusted? > > > > Well, to quote a famous Christmas movie, "Welcome to the party, pal." > > > > You posted it. I corrected it, and you're running for the hills. Wow, you're really losing it, aren't ya?