Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:31:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Alec Baldwin getting away with murder Content-Language: en-US Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <1797980814.731492324.194688.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 78 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:31:21 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 4510 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17bb7ac7c1d96ecd$51$3602787$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 4887 On 3/8/24 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , FPP > wrote: > >> On 3/7/24 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article >>> <17ba9b03ee0e9624$13863$3298354$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>, >>> moviePig wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/7/2024 4:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article , Alan Smithee >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 03/07/2024 01:42 PM, EGK wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:59:02 -0700, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://deadline.com/2024/03/rust-movie-armorer-guilty-shooting-death-1 >>>>>>>> 23 >>>>>>>> 5847983/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Classic example of shit rolling downhill and our two-tiered justice >>>>>>> system. Baldwin is "loose" with weapons on the set and he fires the >>>>>>> fatal shot but because he hired a young and very inexperienced armorer, >>>>>>> she ends up being the perfect scapegoat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you watch the trial yesterday? She was quoted as saying she could >>>>>> not be responsible for everyone on the set. Even tho it is her job to be >>>>>> responsible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Baldwin should be held accountable, but he will likely walk. >>>>> >>>>> Once upon a time, I spent an afternoon on the CSI:HORATIO set as a >>>>> technical advisor (the episode dealt with counterfeit currency and they >>>>> took none of my advice regarding how what they were doing wasn't >>>>> accurate in any way), and in every scene with guns, as soon as they >>>>> yelled cut, the armorer zipped in and took everyone's pistols and put >>>>> them on a table over in the corner of the sound stage. He stood watch >>>>> over them until the resets were done and they were ready to go again, >>>>> then he handed them all back out again.** >>>>> >>>>> (I do not know if there was a separate sunglass wrangler for David >>>>> Caruso.) >>>>> >>>>> **The armorer guy went white as a sheet near the end of the day when it >>>>> came to his attention that I'd been sitting on set all afternoon with an >>>>> actual loaded handgun under my suit coat. >>>>> >>>>> Based on what I saw that day and how firearms are treated on set by a >>>>> responsible armorer, Baldwin should never have been playing around with >>>>> a gun outside of an actual filmed scene, and certainly shouldn't have >>>>> been pointing it at people. What possible reason could he have had for >>>>> pointing it at the director and the DP? >>>> >>>> Was he not rehearsing a scene that called for him to point the gun at >>>> the camera and then to "fire"? If he was, then I can buy that he did no >>>> worse than most movie actors would've. >>> >>> Another thing the CSI folks had were dummy guns for such rehearsals. Big >>> hunks of brightly-colored plastic that are shaped like handguns. >>> >>> E.g.: >>> >>> https://www.securityprousa.com/collections/training-guns >>> >>> They used those for rehearsals and only brought out the real guns for an >>> actual take. Even in the actual take, only the people whose guns needed >>> to cycle for realism were given real firearms. Everyone else had black >>> painted gun replicas that were nothing but solid pieces of plastic. They >>> looked real on camera but had no ability to shoot anything. >>> >> Then go and try THAT case, because it has nothing to do with THIS one. > > It shows that compared to other productions in the same industry, this > movie was playing fast and loose with safety. Great point: don't play fast and loose on movie sets kids. There's a t-shirt right there.