Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 05:32:25 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Man strikes back against Seaside California order with boat mural References: <20240513170449.000014ff@example.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 22:41:21 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-neJbYsSxD6cMFYZEe0/0pCoyylH+xwAD9Di0KErEeLH5J84kF/tXm/+B353sNl0pMpVG73SSdYwNyv3!PKlCRUYuL+oGvTEaFMzA1xkkxPHv0jTqcsrVWHf6r1yTRYASueO9jTjOPdMH01bSAwTyLryZ4q0t!ZoM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3604 In article , moviePig wrote: > On 5/13/2024 7:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > > In article , > > moviePig wrote: > > > >> On 5/13/2024 6:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>> In article , > >>> moviePig wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 5/13/2024 5:04 PM, Rhino wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 20:49:19 -0000 (UTC) > >>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'm guessing that Seaside California is on the ocean and lots of > >>>>>> residents own boats? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A man had his boat on his property. He was told that municipal code > >>>>>> required him to install a 6 foot tall fence around it to comply with > >>>>>> code. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> He built the fence then painted a realistic mural of a boat on the > >>>>>> fence. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Man strikes back against Seaside order with boat mural > >>>>>> by Torstein Rehn > >>>>>> KSBW-TV News Channel 8 > >>>>>> Updated: 1:22 PM PDT May 13, 2024 > >>>>> > >>>>> I didn't see anything in the article explaining WHY he had to have a > >>>>> fence around his boat. Is this a case of "Because we said so!" or is > >>>>> there a sensible reason for the policy? > >>>>> > >>>>> As for the fence he built, it's brilliant! We should all do that when > >>>>> faced with unjust laws and rules: either fight them (if we can) or mock > >>>>> them. > >>>> > >>>> A mural of a boat is likely less of an eyesore than an actual boat. And > >>>> if somehow it weren't, it probably runs afoul of other community codes. > >>> > >>> But community codes are subordinate to the 1st Amendment. A boat isn't > >>> speech but a mural of a boat *is* speech and community codes will have > >>> to do a lot of heavy lifting to overcome the law's heavy presumption in > >>> favor of protecting speech. > >> > >> In this instance, the mural would seem to be "speech" only to the extent > >> that it argues against the ordinance it's responding to. > > > > Doesn't matter why it's speech or what it's trying to say. The > > government isn't allowed to restrict speech based on content or the > > speaker's message. > > Your 3-year-old's random finger-painting isn't "speech". It is with regard to government censorship. Even 3-year-olds have rights.