Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux? Date: 2 Jun 2024 18:18:42 GMT Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <9s645j1pehkhdkc7kjj3hbp2nnu93c4mfc@4ax.com> <66523fb2$0$1258345$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <1OY5O.3643$zfC8.897@fx35.iad> <665c6ef6$0$976$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net i8WmqFfHDbtjbsR2DdmjLQavO4Ne9XtCgejxZAJ259DustYc+W Cancel-Lock: sha1:qSfpM4LWjPjIOk89jLCotFv1zE4= sha256:IcD+zzUVWGpi3h7pskm6tx+Bga79dKxE3ZxnjEdlKiI= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2971 On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:09:14 -0400, DFS wrote: > On 6/1/2024 9:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 06:34:55 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> >>> On 2024-06-01 12:11 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> You have no idea, do you? There are lots of clips on YouTube showing >>>> off those 1990s-era Unix systems. You want to go educate yourself, or >>>> shall I give you some links? >>> >>> Feel free to do so. >> >> NeXTStep: . > > > "around $18,500 for the retail entry price point." > > https://allaboutstevejobs.com/blog/2012-09-04-how-expensive-the-next- computers-actually-were/ Your point? "You see where I’m going with this. Compared to the machines of its time, the NeXT Cubes were not exaggeratedly overpriced. For example, the entry level education Cube cost about 20% more than the Mac IIcx, but with over 50% processor speed, 8MB of RAM and a stunning 17-inch display. Because the Mac did not come with a display! For that you had to pay an extra $2,000… Now for the killer argument, let’s put these competing systems side by side:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120 Throw in the printer and you're looking at $20,000 1980 dollars. Its successor, the System/23, was about $10000 1981 dollars. That the new, improved version used a 8085 processor with 64 KB of RAM gives you an idea if its stellar performance.