Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: A fresh take on the Star Wars films Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 18:10:39 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <7gf24j141hlm65kkk6u86tdielv150lsrl@4ax.com> References: <20240507112300.00000489@example.com> <18l04j5bvs54jd6aijufh67edt34ivveuc@4ax.com> <532614685.737233536.419562.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 00:10:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="26dbc7239de2165b49fd4fbee427ee0a"; logging-data="3173241"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/sdVK9fv0QK+x/NDRSpqD/OZL0fs7zhY0=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:e3ADJZc4lcpCQ8rHi4rn9q+RGDA= Bytes: 4112 On Sun, 12 May 2024 12:10:47 -0700, anim8rfsk wrote: >Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 5/12/2024 3:14 AM, shawn wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 May 2024 06:54:55 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> shawn wrote: >>>>> Sat, 11 May 2024 22:35:20 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote: >>>>>> Fri, 10 May 2024 19:06:45 -0400, moviePig wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Well, *somebody* with wit had to have been behind it. That much >>>>>>> tongue-in-cheek can't have been accidental. Fwiw, the Internet seems >>>>>>> rather definite that Verhoeven (a dedicated Liberal) was satirizing. >>>> >>>>>> Got a cite on that? Sounds like an interesting article or two. >>>> >>>>> https://collider.com/starship-troopers-review-satire-at-its-best/ >>>> >>>>> The cold hard truth of Starship Troopers, Paul Verhoeven's 1997 >>>>> follow-up to his infamous 1995 Showgirls, is painfully obvious from >>>>> the start: this is not Oscar bait. The acting is wooden, especially >>>>> from lead actor Casper Van Dien. Denise Richards' performance is also >>>>> suspect, playing aspiring pilot Carmen Ibanez. The only actors that >>>>> stand out are the steady veterans Clancy Brown and Michael Ironside. >>>>> What Starship Troopers is, though, is satire at its best, with >>>>> Verhoeven masterfully weaving social commentary and potshots >>>>> throughout the film. >>>> >>>> But the novel he was adapting wasn't satire, and the social commentary >>>> was different. Quite frankly, I didn't care for the movie. I thought >>>> the potshots he took were against easy targets. For that reason, I've >>>> seen the movie once and never revisted it and had no interest in the >>>> sequel. >>> >>> No doubt. He took the name of the book and some of the ideas from the >>> book to make a very different movie. So there's no way you can judge >>> the book by the movie because they are so different. I've seen the >>> movie a few times as background noise but never a serious watch >>> because it isn't something one should take seriously. Even his satire >>> is so broad it prevents me from even taking his obvious potshots >>> seriously. I have the sequels on my list to watch some day just to see >>> what they are like but I'm clearly in no rush to see any of them. >> >> The sequels are cheap "sci-fi" horror direct to video productions. If >> you like deliberately bad movies you _may_ want to check them out. >> Otherwise don't bother. (From someone who has watched them.) >> > >Agreed Which is why I haven't gotten around to watch them. I enjoy cheap sci-fi movies but I have the feeling those are truly bad but not bad enough to be enjoyable for how bad they are based just on the still images I've seen.