Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:02:22 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 112 Message-ID: References: <1144903136.735583756.202196.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <2060261334.735593780.114012.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c9c7d3b228c3dc$71931$3085566$c4d58e68@news.newsdemon.com> <17c9e4bd7c6b53cc$8511$1354752$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com> <17ca342572edf3fa$12378$2044614$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:02:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="204336925d375a3b4fd12f5424d4d88b"; logging-data="563038"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/WEIOeU/id3CD0XfLmeE22XsoxM36+KRs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:970rFEknqJ098+c/obPq4OQR4bA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <17ca342572edf3fa$12378$2044614$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 7201 On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote: > On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote: >> On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote: >>>>> On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>   On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>   BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12 >>>>>>>>>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney & >>>>>>>>>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne >>>>>>>>>>>>   "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie >>>>>>>>>>>>   set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>>>   redistributed." >>>>>>>>>>>   There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>>>> her but says >>>>>>>>>>>   nothing about her emphatically asking for it. >>>>>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you >>>>>>>>> have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>> video that makes >>>>>>>>> me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>>>> Alec Baldwin >>>>>>>>> video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>> revulsion, >>>>>>>>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>>>> anything that >>>>>>>>> would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the >>>>>>>>> benefit of the >>>>>>>>> doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>> squander that >>>>>>>>> advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>> as humanly >>>>>>>>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>> mean, really, >>>>>>>>> quite an achievement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane >>>>>>>> aspect to Moore's message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to >>>>>>> pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as >>>>>>> the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out >>>>>>> of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two >>>>>>> together and keep coming up with fifty million? >>>>>> >>>>>> The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended >>>>>> policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to >>>>>> his persuasiveness. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole >>>>> doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't >>>>> either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, >>>>> and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of >>>>> dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit >>>>> mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember >>>>> watching this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie >>>>> Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, >>>>> that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves >>>>> into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could profit by >>>>> selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this >>>>> I feel sorry for you. >>>> >>>> I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture. >>> >>> >>> It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and >>> torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean >>> so stop fucking around. >> >> The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. > > > And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is your > thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's > treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine. Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.