Path: local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 15:56:18 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.arts.tv,uk.comp.sys.mac,edm.general,sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Can Jews be Nazis? Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 08:56:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: <664b6ed6$0$981$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 71 X-Trace: sv3-0fa9j4Vus8FvI85h63fGAMHMK2PSbFnVif6WJXvaJGw46ljGMwi9LqrV694pgL6v3XBG6D46vLiyHLT!ckaPi5C9MX9KNJ/N1YMPZw1q3VCnDLok/v70SWfQx9xNMxH/018f5hhAXXW9uIfOC2N3QIN2DM90!/ZfiAQ== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4487 On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:40:06 -0400, bitrex wrote: >On 5/20/2024 9:57 AM, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 19 May 24 23:57:56 UTC, NefeshBarYochai >> wrote: >> >>> BY STEPHEN F. EISENMAN >>> >>> >>> For many people, the question is inflammatory. The crimes of the >>> German Nazis were of such magnitude that comparison with any other >>> historical violence is invidious. The genocide of the Jews was >>> deliberate and methodical and intended to eliminate every last one. >>> The goal was the same with the Romani and Sinti people. By comparison, >>> the Israelis – currently accused of genocide — are rank amateurs. They >>> have so far killed some 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza out of a >>> population of 2.3 million. >>> >>> But the question, “Can Jews be Nazis?” is nevertheless important for >>> challenging claims of moral inoculation by virtue of the Jewish >>> experience of the Holocaust. If Israeli leaders are indeed committing >>> a genocide in Gaza – as seems the case — they inhabit the same moral >>> universe as the German Nazis, regardless of the suffering of past >>> generations. In addition to the 35,000 killed, the war in Gaza has >>> injured another 75,000 and displaced 2 million. Most of the victims >>> are women and children – how can their deaths be justified? Israeli >>> cabinet ministers, Knesset members, military personnel, and police >>> have all freely spoken of their wish to force Palestinians into Egypt, >>> establish Jewish-only settlements in Gaza, and even use an atomic bomb >>> to kill everyone in the Gaza strip. (U.S. senator Lindsay Graham >>> recently also suggested using a nuclear weapon against Gaza.) >> >> >> At the end of WWII, German cities and industry were heaps of burnt >> rubble, much worse than Gaza today. Half of Germany was occupied by >> the USSR. About 6 million jews had been starved and gassed to death by >> the nazis. About 100 million people died in WWII. >> >> Israel wants to survive and is arguably doing what it must do to >> survive. The bad guys aren't Israel, they are Iran and Hamas and the >> many other savages, kidnappers, bombers, and rapists. >> >> The extreme islamists want to kill all the jews and take their land. >> The citizens of Israel of course object. Thay have atom bombs and >> havedn't used them, even after the drons attacks from Iran. > >If heavily nuclear-armed nations still routinely feel in great danger of >their sovereignty and land being taken then it's hard to know what else >to do for them that could make them feel any safer. > >> Long-term, Israel can't allow Iran to have nukes, because they know >> that Iran will use them on Israeli cities and welcome retaliation as >> blessed martyrdom. Exacrly. What's scary is that the extremist islamists are eager for martyrdom, especially somebody else's. The lunatics in Iran may think that a nuclear exchange is worth it if it kills a lot of jews. > >Iran has probably noticed that no nuclear-armed state has ever been >conquered, it's unclear if Israel knows. > The Iranian leadership no doubt has nuke-proof tunnel complexes, built at great expense. Strange how some people like to live underground. Sounds nasty and stinky to me.