Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Natural recycling at the origin of life Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:42:21 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 97 Message-ID: References: <7ib80jdjfq251u4rplqpu1kc1erab1btjv@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 05:42:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70ca3e9b56a114fd77a149fffd155c6c"; logging-data="3574652"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19UXjcQ7sb48iYHuyQjpaJW+6mz45lLgco=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KTAX7yfX3Mj+2jD1yWLZTjC8ql0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 4707 On 28/03/2024 3:44 am, John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:35:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje > wrote: > >> On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:40:21 -0700) it happened John Larkin >> wrote in <7ib80jdjfq251u4rplqpu1kc1erab1btjv@4ax.com>: >> >>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 07:29:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:50:20 -0700) it happened John Larkin >>>> wrote in >>>> : >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 04:13:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Natural recycling at the origin of life >>>>>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240322145524.htm >>>>>> Source: >>>>>> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München >>>>>> Summary: >>>>>> How was complex life able to develop on the inhospitable early Earth? >>>>>> At the beginning there must have been ribonucleic acid (RNA) to carry the first genetic information. >>>>> >>>>> That's the hand-waving theory. Nobody has figured how that could have >>>>> happened, even in a hospitable environment. >>>>> >>>>>> To build up complexity in their sequences, these biomolecules need to release water. >>>>>> On the early Earth, which was largely covered in seawater, that was not so easy to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, simple :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Then us, then chips, AI, what's next? >>>>> >>>>> What we need is a test to find the most dangerous people, >>>> >>>> White house has it: biden. >>>> >>>>> thieves and >jihadists and Putins, and a genetic modification therapy to make them >>>>> safe. >>>> >>>> You sound very dangerous too, what's it you are using? >>>> >>> >>> I'm helpful and polite to people and animals; I am dangerous to >>> electronic components, which I enjoy torturing. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> It could even be a pandemic virus. >>>> >>>> Like capitalism you mean ;-) >>> >>> We have electricity, computers, lots of different foods, vaccines, >>> antibiotics, houses and cars and twice the life spans of our >>> ancestors. Blame Capitalism. Move to workers paradises like Cuba or >>> Venezuela or North Korea or Gaza or Russia. >> >> Homelessness is also a top in the US. > > Millions of legal and illegal migrants put pressure on housing. And so > does tons of Chinese fentanyl. > >> China is now way ahead of you 'merricans. > > How so? It's run by and for thugs. The US is run for and by rich people who don't see the advantage of paying and educating their work force well enough to make them maximally productive. China has the same problem, even if the ruling minority rationalises it right to rule with different arguments >> US IQ is falling, its debt (mostly owned by China and Japan) >> increases every year. > > The us debt is bad, but not as bad as many other countries. It will be > inflated away. Dream on. >> All US really exports is weapons and war and unrest. > > And oil, NG, coal, machinery, airplanes, electronic components, food. 0il and natural gas are shrinking markets, and in aircraft Airbus now outsells Boeing (partly because new Boeing aircraft have taken to having bits fall off in flight). Electronic components were never a US monopoly and global warming will play havoc with everybody's food production even if you don't believe in it. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney