Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Christians getting it wrong Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 18:53:47 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 18:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8b35f3a82528bad77260edde5fd5a277"; logging-data="3101818"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/q9OBTiJqVHcf2xKJYfCRwXzZlAQr4bBk=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:7DAjy4jMSzjOY81uyEE0UoGV9Nw= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 1961 BTR1701 wrote: >Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>The Horny Goat wrote: >>>Sat, 6 Apr 2024 16:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman : >>>>You're missing my point. The people who want to impose religion upon >>>>civil life want to do so through legislation and the courts, and they >>>>have failed at times, succeeded at other times. >>>As well they should have. >>Laws restricting or making abortion illegal are an example of success in >>imposing religion in civil life. >Only if you believe it's impossible to believe abortion is murder unless >you also believe in religion/god/supernatural etc. Unless some state finally got a law passed defining human life beginning at conception, then no homicide has taken place. If it's not homicide, then it's not murder. By making it conditional upon what I believe instead of legal precepts, you lost the argument. "What I believe" is religion.