Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:15:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <1437748060.733782420.649436.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <17c2d83f594a4d02$139916$3265$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com> <17c31d7e35cbe777$33223$111488$4ed50460@news.newsdemon.com> <17c342b0976dff0b$51968$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US From: moviePig In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 180 Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.hasname.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 20:15:50 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 8328 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c37b9208850f61$4758$3037545$10d55a65@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 8745 On 4/5/2024 9:37 AM, FPP wrote: > On 4/4/24 10:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >> On 4/4/2024 8:06 PM, FPP wrote: >>> On 4/4/24 11:31 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/4/2024 6:51 AM, FPP wrote: >>>>> On 4/3/24 2:22 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that one >>>>>>>>>> of her family's >>>>>>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over >>>>>>>>> the Easter >>>>>>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on >>>>>>>>> Instagram on >>>>>>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery >>>>>>>>> person after he >>>>>>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North Carolina. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for InstaCart >>>>>>>>>> shot & killed >>>>>>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet photos >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN >>>>>>>>> shot our >>>>>>>>> dog. >>>>>>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then >>>>>>>>> knew he >>>>>>>>> wasn’t >>>>>>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed >>>>>>>>> self-defense. He >>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He >>>>>>>>> was shopping >>>>>>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my >>>>>>>>> daughters and >>>>>>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. >>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did." >>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss of >>>>>>>>> our beloved >>>>>>>>> boy and family member." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to >>>>>>>>>> DailyMail.com: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this >>>>>>>>>> incident. We have no >>>>>>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account was >>>>>>>>> immediately >>>>>>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in direct >>>>>>>>> contact with >>>>>>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their >>>>>>>>> investigation." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department >>>>>>>>>> to TMZ, law >>>>>>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver >>>>>>>>> claimed he shot >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> dog in self-defense. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived at >>>>>>>>>> the residence to >>>>>>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog >>>>>>>>> attacked him >>>>>>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by >>>>>>>>> firing a >>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog >>>>>>>>> was present at >>>>>>>>> the residence but did not attack." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was >>>>>>>>>> also involved in >>>>>>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed that >>>>>>>>> no charges >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> been filed against the driver at this time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any >>>>>>>>>> other individuals >>>>>>>>> in response to the shooting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up to >>>>>>>>> the front of >>>>>>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get >>>>>>>>> stolen all the >>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I see >>>>>>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power >>>>>>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is >>>>>>>> locked to >>>>>>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the >>>>>>>>> front door. I >>>>>>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come inside >>>>>>>>> to see that >>>>>>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how he/she/it >>>>>>>>> knew. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside >>>>>>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw that >>>>>>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a Ring >>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>> unless he delivered items there before. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment in >>>>>>>>> your life >>>>>>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring >>>>>>>>> doorbell video >>>>>>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this >>>>>>>>> campaign? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on >>>>>>>>> Instacart, >>>>>>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples homes >>>>>>>>> and steals >>>>>>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals >>>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect >>>>>>>> anything to >>>>>>>> happen to him. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self defense, >>>>>>> he's going to get his ass sued off. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if >>>>>>> anything, he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he >>>>>>> has one. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with >>>>>> zero provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either. >>>>> >>>>> Wow, pig.  So you've never been on a jury before, have you? >>>> >>>> No, I fail the voir dire.  But in this instance it's the word of the >>>> victim and only witness against the owners' speculative "certainty". >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The guy doing the shooting is the one who needs to show his reason >>> for shooting in the first place. >>> >>> You don't want to believe that people treat animals badly?  Do you >>> live under a rock? >> >> I couldn't convict the guy based simply on my angry suspicions. >> >> > > What provocation justifies killing an animal?  Because unless there was > some kind of justification, he shot a dog in the dog's own home. > > You condone abusing animals that haven't done anything to warrant it? In this instance, it seems to be a question of evidence, and there's only the victim's. It'd take a helluva lot of testimony about past behavior -- probably about both victim and dog -- to outweigh that.