Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:47:51 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Challenger Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3ltb6j1v7miinkbhb0f3n6gknud5j9eeb8@4ax.com> References: <5a5a6jtfh1je18lr297jrh10oihptl2tgo@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 X-Trace: sv3-6nQtMfNEkxtz1oBrH3lB6LHrdHL3N9rAxMxdDMBvNGF979xrDkOVK/kovtm0UU71FpwERDmiEMnu6DD!wnmUrzmctPQBTMg3OMhYKCqvJBdAzY+hf/ZphkxRaZfcNxNkNmjTy37ytbLn2mON/2me1acg+hZJ!jCzQ1Q== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2480 On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:29:13 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: >On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 08:08:26 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 08:21:52 +0100, Jeff Layman >> wrote: >> >>>On 09/06/2024 03:42, john larkin wrote: >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Story-Heroism-Disaster-Space/dp/ >198217661X >>>> >>>> This is a very well researched and written book, and a sad, ghastly >>>> story. >>>> >>>> It reminds me that humans have no purpose in space but to die. >>> >>>That's a very jaundiced and negative view. Firstly, they weren't in >>>space when they died; they were at 46000 feet, which was below the >>>operational height of Concorde. >> >> Dead is dead. Optimistically, they died instantly but probably not. > >I would guess it must have been very much like being exposed to a nuclear >blast. So basically frazzled to death over several seconds. Not nice. The crew may have been alive when the cabin hit the water. The recovery of the remains and the forensics was grim. I'm shocked that NASA ever flew another shuttle. The tiles and the SRBs and the external tanks and the engines were all known hazards. Columbia was the nail in the coffin. Two shuttles out of five were lost. NASA estimated that the loss rate would be 1 in 100,000 flights.